From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Howard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Reconsider make-backup-files default value Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2024 13:46:18 -0800 Message-ID: <87frpwprdh.fsf@librehacker.com> References: <87a5g84hn4.fsf@baxters.nz> <86msk7dcuk.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10717"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Jeremy Baxter , james.ipswich@proton.me, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Petteri Hintsanen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 18 23:47:38 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sr2WP-0002eZ-Vk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:47:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sr2VK-0001dw-Hj; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 17:46:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sr2VI-0001dQ-5U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 17:46:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.kolabnow.com ([212.103.80.155]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sr2VG-0005oN-Il; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 17:46:27 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mx.kolabnow.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E752A8CC9; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:46:24 +0200 (CEST) Authentication-Results: ext-mx-out013.mykolab.com (amavis); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=kolabnow.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kolabnow.com; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:message-id:date:date :references:in-reply-to:subject:subject:from:from:received :received:received; s=dkim20240523; t=1726695983; x=1728510384; bh=8dQcA4bbU381yMsUqar9/WCEqVyqgOhfnBBnQPETQK8=; b=fNhYD2CECUDb 0klqYAiscBeTnfY0qxGyYrF+WyCPWRx07BHjcGPBwVZQKGFhCrZgiWZ7CtvW264P tOg/scROlCYaPsxlApgewnrq8KlUE3dfjYNBRWOnEw8v/1fK70XIicvoJcmkordf bZWFIoCWyf2RJko9/QwlU656DtojM4a48MbSzwmjJLFtHLkrSIk6O4IkG7Y6cDGv /XLL24KE6F71B+HQkGw67KFnfAwKtuclI/0kWk1ZZW/fRKBfxa6lAnq2JP1XK6Z2 v3FBf3m2nEY+lIgdiG3aaD7ik9OdYjJT5NYavOb3UyMPINNjhshA+DuBkPgM5aXO iPljtxxf5Q== X-Virus-Scanned: amavis at mykolab.com Original-Received: from mx.kolabnow.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ext-mx-out013.mykolab.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavis, port 10024) with ESMTP id RPdowNV7eH5Y; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:46:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from int-mx011.mykolab.com (unknown [10.9.13.11]) by mx.kolabnow.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AEB92A8CC7; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:46:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ext-subm010.mykolab.com (unknown [10.9.6.10]) by int-mx011.mykolab.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0823E381418F; Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:46:22 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Petteri Hintsanen's message of "Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:14:47 +0300") Received-SPF: none client-ip=212.103.80.155; envelope-from=christopher@librehacker.com; helo=mx.kolabnow.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323738 Archived-At: I would vote for keeping backups turned on by default. Something I have wondered about for a while is why the kept-old-versions default is 2 instead of 1. It makes sense of course that you would want to keep, e.g., the original (template) version of a config file, but what is special about the first revision you made to it? When using Emacs' backup system, which I sometimes find useful, I usually increase kept-new-versions to 10, though I suppose 2 makes a more sensible default. -- Christopher Howard