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From: Pranshu Sharma via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: Pranshu Sharma via "Emacs development discussions."
	<emacs-devel@gnu.org>,  martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>,
	 "eliz@gnu.org" <eliz@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Add function to rotate/transpose all windows
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:09:43 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87frmlnvyw.fsf@bauherren.ovh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87msgtsc0t.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Wed,  18 Dec 2024 09:29:22 +0200")

Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:

> This implies also forward-rotate-windows.  But better to keep the same
> name prefix while adding the suffix -back as in e.g.
> Info-history-back, help-go-back, xref-go-back.

You are right, roate-windows-back would be better

>> Flip-diagnally pretty much means transpose in most cases, transpose
>> is the established terminology already, eg when you transpose tables,
>> and matracies.  flip-window-layout-diagonally is a bit too verbose
>> for me.
>
> Then transpose-windows is fine, and the docstring could refer
> to similarity with matrix transposition, and also describe
> flipping it over its diagonal.

Ok, once we settle on the keybidnings and names, I will send final diff
with updated docstring.

>>> What is mnemonic of 'c'.  I see no letter 'c' in "rotate layout".
>>
>> In my head I was thinking cycle-windows.  Now I am stuck as to where
>> we
>> can put them, rotate-window-layout's and rotate-windows's logical
>> keybindings are the same.  Perhaps we might have to go with an
>> unmemonic
>> keybinding.
>
> Or we could try to find a better key.

ideas?

>>>> Imo preserving keybindings for future use is premature
>>>> optimisation,
>>>> breaking backward compatibility in terms of keybindings is
>>>> generally
>>>> harmless.
>>>
>>> Experience shows that replacing established keys is not quite
>>> harmless.
>>
>> As in, what happens?
>
> People complain furiously that their favorite keys do not work anymore
> as they used to.

Oh, if seniors complaining about this is an issue, we can definetly look
over it.  I don't see window-toggle-side-windows being anyone's
faviourate command.  The only keybindng a senior might use is "C-x w
{2,3}".  The last keybinding drama I can remember was with the register
thing, and that was a pretty signficant change.

Are there any other examples where people complained?

> 'C-x w' is two versions old since Emacs 29.1.

29.1 feature are lightspeed ahead for the kind of crowd we are talking
about



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-18 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 151+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-24 13:45 Add function to rotate/transpose all windows pranshu sharma
2024-09-24 13:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-25  8:05   ` martin rudalics
2024-09-25  8:34     ` pranshu sharma
2024-09-25  9:31       ` martin rudalics
2024-09-25 10:50         ` pranshu sharma
2024-09-25 13:53           ` martin rudalics
2024-09-25 15:31             ` pranshu sharma
2024-09-26 14:10       ` martin rudalics
2024-09-26 14:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27 17:29           ` martin rudalics
2024-09-28  7:52             ` pranshu sharma
2024-09-28  9:26               ` martin rudalics
2024-09-28 10:53                 ` pranshu sharma
2024-09-28 14:48                   ` martin rudalics
2024-09-29  7:36                     ` pranshu sharma
2024-09-29  8:40                       ` martin rudalics
2024-09-29  9:23                         ` pranshu sharma
2024-09-29 14:48                           ` martin rudalics
2024-09-30  6:29                             ` pranshu sharma
2024-09-30  8:57                               ` martin rudalics
2024-10-01  9:17                                 ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-02  9:04                                   ` martin rudalics
2024-10-03  7:06                                     ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-03  8:17                                       ` martin rudalics
2024-10-03 10:09                                         ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-03 14:18                                           ` martin rudalics
2024-10-04  5:50                                             ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-04  8:08                                               ` martin rudalics
2024-10-04 15:10                                                 ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-05 14:43                                                   ` martin rudalics
2024-10-06  2:54                                                     ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-06 15:02                                                       ` martin rudalics
2024-10-06 15:52                                                         ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-07  8:33                                                           ` martin rudalics
2024-10-07  9:42                                                             ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-03 15:12                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-08 18:35                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-09  6:59                                         ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-09 16:21                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-10 11:49                                             ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-10 16:57                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-13  5:43                                                 ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-13  8:17                                                   ` martin rudalics
2024-10-14 17:36                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-15  8:34                                                     ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-15 16:16                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-18 14:52                                                     ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-18 17:48                                                       ` martin rudalics
2024-10-18 18:37                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-19  1:45                                                         ` pranshu sharma
2024-10-19  6:45                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-19 18:19                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-19  8:33                                                           ` martin rudalics
2024-10-20  8:19                                                       ` martin rudalics
2024-10-20 14:11                                                         ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-10-20 17:37                                                           ` martin rudalics
2024-10-21  5:54                                                             ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-10-21  8:14                                                               ` martin rudalics
2024-10-21  9:23                                                               ` martin rudalics
2024-10-21 13:37                                                             ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-10-22 18:12                                                               ` martin rudalics
2024-10-24 14:38                                                                 ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-10-24 18:39                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2024-10-25 14:24                                                                     ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-10-25 17:09                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2024-10-26  9:14                                                                         ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-10-27  8:23                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2024-11-02 14:06                                                                             ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-05 18:01                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2024-11-08  9:23                                                                                 ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-08 10:06                                                                                   ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-08 15:52                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2024-11-09  2:14                                                                                       ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-09  8:48                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2024-11-08 15:52                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2024-11-09  2:09                                                                                     ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-09  8:48                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2024-11-09 10:55                                                                                         ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-09 18:06                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2024-11-10 10:09                                                                                             ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-10 16:36                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2024-11-11 14:47                                                                                                 ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-11 16:55                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2024-11-12 13:50                                                                                                     ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-12 17:46                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2024-11-16 13:36                                                                                                         ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-16 16:54                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2024-11-17  2:45                                                                                                             ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-17 10:22                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2024-11-17 15:03                                                                                                                 ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-17 16:38                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2024-11-18  0:37                                                                                                                     ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-18  8:55                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2024-11-19  9:34                                                                                                                         ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-19 17:48                                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2024-11-21 14:04                                                                                                                             ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-21 17:54                                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2024-11-24 13:53                                                                                                                                 ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-26  9:49                                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2024-11-26 14:14                                                                                                                                     ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-27  8:29                                                                                                                                     ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-27  9:18                                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2024-11-27 14:37                                                                                                                                         ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-27 17:42                                                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2024-11-28  2:43                                                                                                                                             ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-28  9:28                                                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2024-11-28 15:18                                                                                                                                                 ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-11-30 10:07                                                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2024-11-30 17:41                                                                                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-30 19:01                                                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2024-12-01  4:13                                                                                                                                                         ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-12-03  7:30                                                                                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-03  8:25                                                                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2024-12-01  6:41                                                                                                                                                     ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-12-01 17:20                                                                                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2024-12-02  8:06                                                                                                                                                         ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-12-03  8:23                                                                                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2024-12-04 15:20                                                                                                                                                             ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-12-04 17:56                                                                                                                                                               ` martin rudalics
2024-12-04 19:12                                                                                                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-05 14:16                                                                                                                                                                   ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-12-05 17:48                                                                                                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-06  4:51                                                                                                                                                                       ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-12-06  7:29                                                                                                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-05 14:23                                                                                                                                                                   ` Pranshu Sharma
2024-12-05 15:17                                                                                                                                                                 ` Pranshu Sharma
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2024-12-17 15:04                                                                                                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2024-12-17 15:36                                                                                                                                                                     ` Pranshu Sharma via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-17 18:32                                                                                                                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-18  1:50                                                                                                                                                                         ` Pranshu Sharma via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18  7:29                                                                                                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-18 10:09                                                                                                                                                                             ` Pranshu Sharma via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2024-12-18 10:06                                                                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2024-10-14 17:32                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-09-28  7:58             ` pranshu sharma
2024-09-28  8:18             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-28  9:40               ` martin rudalics
2024-09-28 11:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-28 14:58                   ` martin rudalics
2024-09-28 15:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-07  8:33                       ` martin rudalics
2024-09-28 13:22                 ` pranshu sharma
2024-09-28 14:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-28 14:49                   ` martin rudalics
2024-09-27 10:06         ` pranshu sharma
2024-09-27 17:29           ` martin rudalics
2024-09-24 17:40 ` Petteri Hintsanen
2024-09-24 19:34 ` Charles Choi
2024-09-25  2:00   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-25  7:00   ` pranshu sharma

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