From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alexander Pohoyda Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RMAIL, MIME-related bug Date: 16 Oct 2003 23:56:50 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87ekxczw0t.fsf@oak.pohoyda.family> References: <200310121947.h9CJlhKH006102@oak.pohoyda.family> <6480-Thu16Oct2003192118+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <200310161914.h9GJEYW0004195@beta.mvs.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1066341787 9241 80.91.224.253 (16 Oct 2003 22:03:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 22:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@elta.co.il, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 17 00:03:04 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AAGD2-00066W-00 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:03:04 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AAGD1-00071C-00 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 00:03:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AAG7r-0006Qm-OD for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:57:43 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AAG7g-0006Pl-DZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:57:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AAG7A-0006Di-Cu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:57:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AAG79-0006DV-UP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 17:57:00 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 31008 invoked by uid 65534); 16 Oct 2003 21:56:56 -0000 Original-Received: from p508BEA30.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO oak.pohoyda.family) (80.139.234.48) by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 16 Oct 2003 23:56:56 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14602519 Original-Received: from oak.pohoyda.family (oak.pohoyda.family [127.0.0.1]) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9GLuu5d002103; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:56:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) Original-Received: (from apog@localhost) by oak.pohoyda.family (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h9GLuoTC002100; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 23:56:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net) X-Authentication-Warning: oak.pohoyda.family: apog set sender to alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net using -f Original-To: ehud@unix.mvs.co.il In-Reply-To: <200310161914.h9GJEYW0004195@beta.mvs.co.il> User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Lines: 30 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17179 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17179 "Ehud Karni" writes: > > > The question is, do we care that we lose information, and do we need > > > to recreate the original format? That's exactly what I was asking > > > Alexander to explain. > > > > I need to be able to forward/resend a GPG-signed message (or a message with > > a GPG-signed subpart), so at least in those cases we need to preserve all > > the information. > > I second Stefan opinion. I just checked current RMAIL behavior. When > you do rmail edit (i.e. rmail-edit-current-message) it fully restores > the original mail including the original character encoding (I checked > it on a problematic Hebrew encoded in utf-8). And if the message was sent base64 or quoted-printable -encoded? > > PS: All the MUAs I know do the processing upon display, so I don't > > understand why it would pose any performance problem. > > I agree on this point too (only few mails are read more than once). I disagree here. I store emails and sometimes have to read them many times. Not to mention summary-navigation. -- Alexander Pohoyda PGP Key fingerprint: 7F C9 CC 5A 75 CD 89 72 15 54 5F 62 20 23 C6 44