From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: with-output-to-temp-buffer [Re: reverting CJK input methods] Date: 10 May 2004 10:28:24 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87ekpsuzqa.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> References: <20040429.150303.42778779.wl@gnu.org> <200404300142.KAA01027@etlken.m17n.org> <87u0z1puxa.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200404301326.WAA02744@etlken.m17n.org> <8765bga5tt.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200405020157.KAA07108@etlken.m17n.org> <200405060505.OAA21188@etlken.m17n.org> <200405061310.WAA22378@etlken.m17n.org> <200405101213.VAA04125@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084200880 16814 80.91.224.253 (10 May 2004 14:54:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 14:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon May 10 16:54:16 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BNCAZ-0007OX-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 16:54:15 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BNCAZ-0002zj-00 for ; Mon, 10 May 2004 16:54:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BNBxk-0005md-TV for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 10:41:00 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BNBsI-0004Ht-0w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 10:35:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BNBrl-0004A6-7E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 May 2004 10:35:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [209.226.175.74] (helo=tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BNBle-00031b-9y; Mon, 10 May 2004 10:28:30 -0400 Original-Received: from alfajor ([67.68.218.161]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20040510142828.VMPN20511.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@alfajor>; Mon, 10 May 2004 10:28:28 -0400 Original-Received: by alfajor (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A5E0AD73CB; Mon, 10 May 2004 10:28:24 -0400 (EDT) Original-To: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: <200405101213.VAA04125@etlken.m17n.org> Original-Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23038 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23038 >> However, consider the case of a Customize buffer. That has lots of >> read-only text, the idea being that the user should not be able to >> edit it. The read-only properties are present only to delimit the fields so people only edit the text where Custom knows what to do with the edits. If the user wants to empty the buffer, there's no point preventing him from doing that, I think. >> Should erase-buffer in a Customize buffer leave it empty? Yes. >> The result would be an undesirable confusion. In what way could it be confusing? >> We could respond to that by saying, "So don't do erase-buffer in >> a Customize buffer." Maybe that's right, but I am not sure. > I think "So don't do ..." is sufficient. Agreed. > But I still believe it is better to change erase-buffer > itself (perhaps it should delete all overlays too). Agreed. > Let's discuss it after the next release. Oh well! Stefan