From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rob Browning Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.] Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:20:49 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <87ekkjd66m.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> References: <1096291271.415813c757a26@imp6-q.free.fr> <20040927134714.GA20012@fencepost> <87hdphx91c.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <87655wswkv.fsf@trouble.defaultvalue.org> <01c4a6f8$Blat.v2.2.2$f6ef61c0@zahav.net.il> <20040930143404.GB2296@fencepost> <01c4a703$Blat.v2.2.2$9a627220@zahav.net.il> <1096559619.415c2c031623c@imp4-q.free.fr> <01c4a707$Blat.v2.2.2$99a73ba0@zahav.net.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1096564951 13344 80.91.229.6 (30 Sep 2004 17:22:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:22:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jmarant@free.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 30 19:22:25 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CD4dM-0005ug-00 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:22:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CD4jl-00031m-7p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:29:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CD4jb-0002ze-HR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:28:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CD4ja-0002yq-K7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:28:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CD4ja-0002yh-EN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:28:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [66.93.216.237] (helo=defaultvalue.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CD4d8-0004PN-1r; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:22:10 -0400 Original-Received: from trouble.defaultvalue.org (omen.defaultvalue.org [192.168.1.1]) by defaultvalue.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7FB3FB1; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:22:09 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by trouble.defaultvalue.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 63161410A1; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:20:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <01c4a707$Blat.v2.2.2$99a73ba0@zahav.net.il> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:06:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27729 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27729 "Eli Zaretskii" writes: > I don't understand the question; are you saying that bugfix releases > don't need to go through a pretest phase? I wasn't aware something > like that was being proposed in these discussions. I'm not sure about Jerome's position, but as my other message suggested I'm fairly agnostic with respect to what process the emacs developers will feel is appropriate for these more minor releases. In the end, the thing I'll have to evaluate is whether or not I feel I can handle the work required by that process. I can understand both the argument that these releases should be tested just as fully as any other release, and the alternative argument that they should be treated as much lighter-weight. The latter argument usually claims that since the changes that go into these releases are much more controlled (and much smaller) than other releases, and since it's relatively easy to follow up a problematic minor release with a repair, then the minor releases won't normally need as much testing as the more major releases. -- Rob Browning rlb @defaultvalue.org and @debian.org; previously @cs.utexas.edu GPG starting 2002-11-03 = 14DD 432F AE39 534D B592 F9A0 25C8 D377 8C7E 73A4