From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: New keybinding suggestion: C-x _ for `shrink-window'
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 05:00:25 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ejexwf4m.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACGEKLCEAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:09:58 -0800")
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>> I tried to implement Drew suggestions into one single function.
>> See my comments below. Any feedback is very welcome.
>
> Thanks for working some more on this. I didn't expect that you would
> implement most of what I suggested - they were just some ideas that occurred
> to me. Anyway, here is some more feedback to think about:
Please check the latest window-edit.el here:
http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/u/window-edit.el
Window shrinking/enlarging is okay.
Borders moving might be somewhat inconsistent, but I could find any easy
way to predict the changes made by `shrink-window' and `enlarge-window'
in all possible window configurations. Anyway, this should be accurate
in 95% of the real-life cases, and I do agree that the resize-mode will
be the most useful anyway.
> 1. When I use `?', I get a new frame *window-edit help* (I use non-nil
> `pop-up-frames'). If I click mouse-1 in that frame, then the frame
> disappears. That's no good. I need to be able to go to the help frame, move
> around, select text, etc.
I'm not sure about this. The help window is now quite big, and people
using window-edit with a lot of windows might prefer not to loose their
configuration just by displaying the help window.
Hitting `?' once will first show a small help message, depending on
the mode you're on. Then hitting `?' again will display the window
help.
> 2. When help is shown, the window configuration should be left as is, if
> `pop-up-frames' is non-nil. That is, there is no need to change it to a
> single window.
Fixed.
> 3. Need more help in the help window. For instance, what do the arrows do,
> by default? What does the prefix arg do?
I tried to improve this.
> 4. Window resizing with arrows works fine. I see problems with border
> movement, however:
Most of the bugs should be fixed now.
> f. Whenever an arrow key cannot move a border for some reason, the user
> should get feedback explaining why. For instance, in a window that is
> full-frame height, you cannot move a border up or down, but there is no
> message.
Fixed. Let me know what you think.
> g. There is still the problem that moving a border can make windows
> disappear because they get too small. To me, that's not the right behavior.
> They should respect `window-min-width' and `window-min-height' - you should
> get a "can't move..." message if the requested movement tries to undercut
> these limits.
Fixed.
> 7. The binding of `echo-keystrokes' is not working. If I move the focus to
> another window-manager window (e.g. this mail message, outside Emacs), then
> I see a long string of keystrokes filling the echo area. Maybe move the
> binding higher up?
I already set (echo-keystrokes 0) - what can I do?
> 8. +/- should go directly from 1 to -1, skipping 0, since 0 is a no-op for
> resizing and border movement.
Fixed.
> 9. The prompt is still not general enough, IMO.
Please comment the new prompt.
> 10. Change "negate argument" to "negate increment". Change ARG everywhere to
> "INCREMENT", for clarity. And put ~ next to +/- in the help and the doc
> string, so it's clearer that they all apply to the increment.
Done.
> 11. Let the arrows resize instead of move borders, by default.
Done.
> 12. Cursor in right window, `S-down' - no message. Instead, cursor moves to
> bottom-left window. Another `S-down' - still no message - and no more cursor
> movement.
Fixed.
> However, you might want to let `C-b', `C-f', `C-p', and `C-n' move
> point to enable control over `S-<arrow>'.
Added.
> It's simple:
>
> (case e
> (left (if...)
> (right (if...)
> (up (if...)
> (down (if...))
Done.
> `mouse-1' should set point, in whatever window.
Not yet done. I will do this if the new window-edit.el if I have more
feedback on window-edit.el, I need to be sure this is going somewhere.
Thanks,
--
Bastien
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Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-28 10:39 New keybinding suggestion: C-x _ for `shrink-window' Bastien
2007-10-28 10:41 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-28 12:06 ` Bastien
2007-10-28 11:21 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-28 14:40 ` Bastien
2007-10-28 20:20 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-28 21:47 ` Bastien
2007-10-28 22:05 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-29 0:03 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-29 8:43 ` Bastien
2007-10-29 0:11 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-31 11:58 ` Bastien
2007-10-31 15:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-31 16:18 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-31 17:31 ` Bastien
2007-10-31 23:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-01 0:26 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-01 1:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-01 1:28 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-01 1:46 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-01 2:17 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-01 3:41 ` Bastien
2007-11-01 1:13 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-01 19:04 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-03 21:56 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-11-04 1:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-11-04 2:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-11-04 19:56 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-31 16:20 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-31 23:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-01 16:54 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-01 22:01 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-01 22:27 ` David Kastrup
2007-11-01 23:05 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-02 14:28 ` Bastien
2007-11-02 14:28 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-03 0:20 ` Bastien
2007-11-03 3:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-03 4:14 ` Miles Bader
2007-11-03 5:46 ` Bastien
2007-11-03 5:35 ` Miles Bader
2007-11-03 14:11 ` Bastien
2007-11-03 15:15 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-03 16:43 ` Bastien
2007-11-03 16:43 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-04 0:11 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-05 3:30 ` Bastien
2007-11-05 7:37 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-05 11:06 ` Bastien
2007-11-08 15:32 ` Bastien
2007-11-10 1:09 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-10 1:11 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-11 5:00 ` Bastien [this message]
2007-11-11 8:42 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-11 17:17 ` Bastien
2007-11-11 17:26 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-11 23:54 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12 0:07 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-12 3:20 ` Bastien
2007-11-12 2:55 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-12 4:18 ` Bastien
2007-11-12 11:47 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-12 13:47 ` Bastien
2007-11-12 19:03 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-12 21:20 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-12 21:31 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-12 22:09 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-12 22:51 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-14 0:26 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-16 23:49 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-17 1:36 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-17 9:09 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-17 15:44 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-17 17:28 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-12 21:41 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-12 22:15 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-13 13:40 ` Bastien
2007-11-13 17:51 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-14 0:58 ` Bastien
2007-11-14 2:48 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-14 8:45 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-13 23:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-14 1:05 ` Bastien
2007-11-12 17:18 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12 17:28 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-11 14:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-11 17:11 ` Bastien
2007-11-11 19:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12 3:19 ` Bastien
2007-11-12 17:18 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-13 13:25 ` Bastien
2007-11-13 18:49 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-14 0:27 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-14 14:41 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-14 1:14 ` Bastien
2007-11-14 1:56 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-15 20:52 ` Bastien
2007-11-15 20:57 ` Bastien
[not found] ` <473CBBA7.8090507@gmail.com>
2007-11-16 12:39 ` Bastien
2007-11-14 17:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-14 18:12 ` Bastien
[not found] ` <473B7CDD.4040401@gmail.com>
2007-11-15 21:05 ` Bastien
2007-11-15 21:38 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-15 22:27 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-16 12:41 ` Bastien
2007-11-16 21:52 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-17 0:10 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-17 1:45 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-17 9:28 ` martin rudalics
2007-11-17 11:58 ` Bastien
2007-11-17 2:17 ` Bastien
2007-11-17 9:09 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-17 12:08 ` Bastien
2007-11-17 17:28 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-18 0:10 ` Bastien
2007-11-19 1:20 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-19 2:45 ` Bastien
2007-11-19 6:48 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-17 15:59 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-17 16:34 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-17 16:38 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-17 17:25 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-17 23:52 ` Bastien
2007-11-17 23:51 ` Bastien
2007-11-18 0:16 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-18 2:16 ` Bastien
2007-11-18 2:31 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-18 12:04 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-19 2:23 ` Bastien
2007-11-14 23:09 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-14 23:46 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-15 0:21 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-15 1:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-15 8:29 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-16 1:16 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-16 12:58 ` Bastien
2007-11-16 15:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-16 17:13 ` Bastien
2007-11-16 18:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-16 19:19 ` Bastien
2007-11-16 21:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-17 2:26 ` Bastien
2007-11-17 4:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-17 11:54 ` Bastien
2007-11-18 3:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-19 2:30 ` Bastien
2007-11-15 13:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-15 13:07 ` Richard Stallman
[not found] ` <E1Ir5H0-0002Ty-Jz@fencepost.gnu.org>
2007-11-11 17:10 ` Bastien
2007-11-11 23:54 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12 3:33 ` Bastien
2007-11-12 17:18 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-13 13:27 ` Bastien
2007-11-11 23:54 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12 3:36 ` Bastien
2007-11-18 22:46 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-19 2:34 ` Bastien
2007-11-02 16:51 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-10-31 23:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-01 6:30 ` David Kastrup
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