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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 'Jason Rumney' <jasonr@gnu.org>,
	Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	'Emacs-Devel' <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mapped drive
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:29:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ej8zymsf.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvmynnuqzm.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:17:01 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> I know it started as a file-name-handler-only thingy, but its new
> docstring and this discussion shows that it goes further than that.

Please don't let us decide because of the docstring. It was changed not
so long ago, without a corresponding implementation, as Eli has
shown. So it represents your intentions for file-remote-p - which I do
respect, but which I don't share (yet).

>> That's why I am not creative enough to see how to implement your
>> interpretation of that function.
>
> Maybe you're thinking of "how can I implement it in Tramp" whereas the
> Tramp-side of that function is already implemented and this thread is
> not only concerned about its behavior for non-file-name-handled files.

I wouldn't have so much problems with your proposal if file-remote-p
would be used just for the decision "Is the access fast or slow". But
that's not the only use case for file-remote-p. This function is used
also in cases for the decision "Do I need special handling for accessing
this file". Most cases, this question doesn't arise, because the file
name handler functions decide it silently. But there are cases, those
functions are not sufficient.

>         Stefan

Best regards, Michael.




  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-21 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-25 18:47 testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mapped drive Drew Adams
2008-01-25 18:54 ` Drew Adams
2008-01-25 20:33   ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mappeddrive Drew Adams
2008-01-25 22:18     ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-25 23:37       ` Drew Adams
2008-01-26  2:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-26  7:30           ` Drew Adams
2008-01-26  9:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-26 11:29           ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-26 15:23             ` Jason Rumney
2008-01-26 16:55             ` Drew Adams
2008-01-26 19:24             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-26 22:15               ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-26 22:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27 11:18                   ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-27 17:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-27 18:22                       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-01-27 19:04                       ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-27  1:36                 ` Drew Adams
2008-01-27 20:46                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-20 18:28                   ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mapped drive Drew Adams
2008-04-20 19:37                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-20 20:03                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-20 20:28                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-20 21:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-20 21:16                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-20 21:31                         ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-20 20:24                       ` Drew Adams
2008-04-20 21:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-20 22:20                           ` Drew Adams
2008-04-20 21:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-20 22:20                           ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21  0:59                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21  7:18                               ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21  7:28                                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-21  7:47                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 19:37                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-21 22:11                                       ` Drew Adams
2008-04-22  3:36                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22  4:43                                           ` Drew Adams
2008-04-22  6:27                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22 14:09                                               ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windowsmapped drive Drew Adams
2008-04-22 15:47                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-21 17:08                                   ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mapped drive Drew Adams
2008-04-21  7:46                                 ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-21  7:55                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21  9:03                                     ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-21  8:57                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-21  9:11                                     ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-21  9:18                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-21  9:44                                         ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-21  9:59                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-21 14:36                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 17:09                                         ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 17:45                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 18:52                                             ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 19:21                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 22:39                                                 ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 14:33                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 15:13                                     ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-21 16:17                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 20:29                                         ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2008-04-22  2:48                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 19:35                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22  2:46                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-22  3:40                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22  5:46                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-22  6:50                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22 15:17                                         ` Michael Albinus
2008-04-29  7:50                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-29 18:15                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-29 20:39                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-30  3:16                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-30  4:26                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-30  6:23                                                     ` Drew Adams
2008-04-30  7:34                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-30 13:57                                                         ` Drew Adams
2008-05-05 15:33                                                           ` Michael Albinus
2008-05-05 15:47                                                             ` Drew Adams
2008-05-05 15:57                                                               ` Michael Albinus
2008-05-05 16:12                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2008-05-05 18:31                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-05 15:20                                             ` Michael Albinus
2008-05-05 18:26                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 19:29                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-22 15:40                                     ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-27 20:43                 ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mappeddrive Stefan Monnier
2008-01-29 15:46                   ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-30  6:15                     ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-30  7:43                       ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-30 14:24                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-30 15:04                           ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-30 15:48                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-30 16:04                               ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-30 17:49                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-30 16:04                           ` David Kastrup
2008-01-30 17:52                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-30 19:50                               ` Michael Albinus
2008-01-30 21:33                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-31  9:07                                   ` Michael Albinus
2008-02-01 19:09                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-03 13:36                                       ` Michael Albinus
2008-02-04 21:55                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-05 15:52                                           ` Michael Albinus
2008-02-05 16:34                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-05 20:58                                               ` Michael Albinus
2008-02-05 22:21                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-02-05 22:32                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2008-02-05 22:17                                               ` url-handler-file-remote-p (was: testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mappeddrive) Michael Albinus
2008-02-06 14:44                                                 ` url-handler-file-remote-p Stefan Monnier
2008-02-06 20:37                                                   ` url-handler-file-remote-p Michael Albinus
2008-01-30 14:29                       ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mappeddrive Stefan Monnier
2008-01-30 14:45                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-31  1:05                         ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-31  1:56                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-31 18:51                             ` Richard Stallman
2008-01-26 15:15           ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-21  4:25         ` Eric Hanchrow
2008-04-21  7:58           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-21  8:15             ` testing for a remote file to include file on aWindows mappeddrive Drew Adams
2008-04-21  8:48               ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-21 17:08                 ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 14:15               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 17:09                 ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 17:52                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-21 18:52                     ` Drew Adams
2008-04-21 19:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-26  8:52   ` testing for a remote file to include file on a Windows mapped drive Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-25 22:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-01-26  8:50   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-26 10:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-26 16:55   ` Drew Adams
2008-01-26 17:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-01-26 17:57       ` Drew Adams
2008-01-26 18:58         ` Eli Zaretskii

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