From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Frame title problem Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 11:45:53 +0900 Message-ID: <87eiawh6se.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87zktn6cs2.fsf@escher.home> <87lj575pyp.fsf@escher.home> <87eiayeiur.fsf@escher.home> <4CD58AD2.3020202@swipnet.se> <878w16dyp2.fsf@escher.home> <4CD5B740.2080205@swipnet.se> <87y696cdj1.fsf@escher.home> <4CD68D70.6010206@swipnet.se> <87hbftgp8c.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4CD6C219.6070500@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289184214 26592 80.91.229.12 (8 Nov 2010 02:43:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 02:43:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stephen Berman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 08 03:43:28 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PFHhe-00026t-HC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2010 03:43:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49072 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PFHhe-0002uH-2o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:43:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44344 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PFHhZ-0002uA-Ff for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:43:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PFHhY-0005w6-AP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:43:21 -0500 Original-Received: from imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.254.161]:49176) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PFHhX-0005vw-UL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:43:20 -0500 Original-Received: from imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss71 (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF212AF543; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 11:43:16 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (unknown [130.158.97.223]) by imss12.cc.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19392AF542; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 11:43:16 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02EF3FA012D; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 11:43:16 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 31CF21A3EDE; Mon, 8 Nov 2010 11:45:54 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <4CD6C219.6070500@swipnet.se> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" ed3b274cc037 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132432 Archived-At: Jan Dj=E4rv writes: >=20 >=20 > Stephen J. Turnbull skrev 2010-11-07 15.52: > > > So I changed Emacs so it lets the X libs set WM_CLIENT_MACHINE. > > > > Given the quality of the standard, the only use I can think of is as a > > heuristic for "readable host name" in frame decorations. If so and > > the Xlibs will do this for you, this is the Right Thing. > > >=20 > WM_CLIENT_MACHINE is used by managers to kill off bad clients when they = don't=20 > respond. It uses _NET_WM_PID and WM_CLIENT_MACHINE to determine if the = pid is=20 > local. Too bad the WM, then, because as you pointed out WM_CLIENT_MACHINE is not defined in a way that's very useful for that purpose. As a client property, it could be almost anything. Furthermore, it shouldn't be a client property; really, this should be transparent to the client, set in one of the shell widgets. Anyway, this shouldn't matter to Emacs, Emacs never infloops, right? ;-)