From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 02:07:45 +0900 Message-ID: <87ei11gl5q.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <20110731.082721.451360942.wl@gnu.org> <20110731.085115.40009301.wl@gnu.org> <877h6yanje.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <878vre95g3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fwlm7fam.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87bowa7dza.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <877h6y7chn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <831ux6cv5o.fsf@gnu.org> <87d3gpku3o.fsf@gnus.org> <834o1ypa2b.fsf@gnu.org> <87sjphhnbj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87k4ath4rd.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ipqdgu1e.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fwlhglqy.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1312477669 24019 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2011 17:07:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:07:49 +0000 (UTC) To: Eli Zaretskii , larsi@gnus.org, list-general@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 04 19:07:44 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp1Oa-0001pc-Nb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:07:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36338 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp1Oa-0003zz-7C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:07:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55109) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp1OX-0003zi-T8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:07:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp1OX-0000Rn-0j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:07:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:34575) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qp1OV-0000RO-G3; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:07:39 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47553FA06B2; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 02:07:36 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 626C41A26F8; Fri, 5 Aug 2011 02:07:45 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <87fwlhglqy.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 8.1.93a under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" cd1f8c4e81cd XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.223 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142881 Archived-At: Stephen J. Turnbull writes: > Sure. But this is Lisp. There's nothing that says that you are > limited to something as simple as 'ltr vs. 'rtl as the property value. > You could have a rather complex property, eg, containing the level of > the embedding as well as the resolved direction. Or you could simply > replace the directional marks with a string on the preceding non-mark > character containing the mark characters that were present in the > source. (Of course you'd need some hack for marks at the beginning of > buffer.) > > It might not be worth it. But then again... I should add that this is in the spirit of Stefan's "let's encourage people to experiment in their own branches or after the release". Most users with a need for bidi should be perfectly satisfied with the current implementation.