From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-x 2 and C-x 3 Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:13:45 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87ehxye7k6.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87wrbs5vsx.fsf@gnu.org> <20135.51113.455424.214783@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <4EA7D649.3080609@gmx.at> <87lis8t05i.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1319732060 26697 80.91.229.12 (27 Oct 2011 16:14:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:14:20 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 27 18:14:16 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJSat-00040n-2c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:14:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60591 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJSas-0000oq-GE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:14:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35686) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJSak-0000cf-3F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:14:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJSaf-0003Bm-V9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:14:06 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:46772) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RJSaf-0003BW-PH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 12:14:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RJSac-0003tj-NB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:13:58 +0200 Original-Received: from c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net ([76.28.40.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:13:58 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:13:58 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 13 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-76-28-40-19.hsd1.vt.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FybPcVBgS3dlFR8r0UhVlffVOW8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145664 Archived-At: On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:20:09 +0100 Nix wrote: N> (The most confusing thing in Emacs is the inverted naming of N> scroll-{up,down}-command with respect to the modern meanings of N> 'scroll up/down', but that is probably not changeable without N> breaking the world at this late date.) "Modern"? Mac OS X Lion has reversed up and down scrolling[1], showing us Emacs was right all along! :) Ted [1] yes, it's because of the touch interface, but still...