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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Ivan Kanis <ivan.kanis@googlemail.com>
Cc: emacs devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: random doesn't feel very random, random doesn't feel very random, Re: random doesn't feel very random
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 03:50:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ehmwuntx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d32g9pmq.fsf@googlemail.com>

Ivan Kanis writes:
 > "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org> wrote:

 > > To avoid this behavior, use `(random t)'
 > 
 > I do.

Where?  I don't see it in your `ivan-emms-pick-album' function.  Note,
this will only help across Emacs sessions; within one session the
random function should maintain state across calls to your function,
so it should give different sequences every time as long as you never
exist Emacs.

 > > If it always plays tracks from the same subset of your
 > > collection, but in different orders, you may have made a
 > > programming error.
 > 
 > It sort of does that.

I still don't understand what buggy behavior you are seeing.  Without
a precise description, it's hard to guess what might be wrong in your
code or in `random'.

 > (defun ivan-emms-pick-album (dir length)
 >   "Return a LENGTH albums in a directory DIR."
 >   (let* ((index 0)
 >          (ret (make-vector length nil))
 >          (album (ivan-emms-list-subdir
 >                  (concat ivan-emms-dir dir)))
 >          (album-length (length album)))
 >     (while (< index length)
 >       (aset ret index
 >             (nth (random album-length) album))
 >       (setq index (1+ index)))
 >     ret))

That's the code without WITH-CACHE.  I don't see any problems with it.

Unfortunately the attachment seems to have been stripped so I don't
know what might be going wrong in `ivan-emms-list-subdir' or the code
that calls `ivan-emms-pick-album'.  (Probably nothing, but I can't
review it.)

If you do `M-x (ivan-emms-list-subdir (concat ivan-emms-dir "FOO")) RET'
(with some value for FOO that actually exists and contains albums),
does the answer look right?




  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-24 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-24  5:47 random doesn't feel very random Ivan Kanis
2012-08-24  6:22 ` Tassilo Horn
2012-08-24 17:19   ` random doesn't feel very random, random doesn't feel very random, " Ivan Kanis
2012-08-24 18:50     ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2012-08-25  7:46       ` Ivan Kanis
2012-08-24  6:30 ` Leo
2012-08-24 22:48   ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-24 22:57     ` Andreas Schwab
2012-08-25 20:55       ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-25 23:25         ` Leo
2012-08-26 13:12           ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-26 14:24             ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-26 23:22               ` Leo
2012-08-27  0:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-27  6:31                 ` Simon Leinen
2012-08-27  3:41               ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-27  4:48                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-31  9:41                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-31 15:06                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-31 15:23                       ` chad
2012-08-31 17:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-31 19:43                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-01  1:18                           ` Paul Eggert
2012-09-01  7:19                             ` Achim Gratz
2012-09-01 13:19                               ` Paul Eggert
2012-09-04 19:19                                 ` Nix
2012-09-04 20:07                                   ` Paul Eggert
2012-09-04 20:11                                     ` Nix
2012-09-02 12:27                               ` Jason Rumney
2012-09-02 13:08                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-01  7:22                             ` Ivan Kanis
2012-09-01 11:13                             ` joakim
2012-08-31 23:04                       ` Leo
2012-08-27  5:17                 ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-31  9:42                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-31 15:07                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-08-31 17:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-08-26  9:06         ` Ivan Kanis
2012-08-24  7:03 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-08-24  9:10   ` Paul Eggert
2012-08-24 17:45     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-08-24 12:45 ` OT: appropriateness of "random" for playlist generation (was: random doesn't feel very random) Jeremiah Dodds
2012-08-24 14:37 ` random doesn't feel very random Drew Adams

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