From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 12:35:45 +0100 Message-ID: <87egvazdgu.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <87wq97i78i.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <87sijqxzr2.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410953790 12842 80.91.229.3 (17 Sep 2014 11:36:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:36:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 17 13:36:23 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XUDX3-0000rW-HE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:36:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44249 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUDX2-0006mL-Mr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:36:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35177) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUDWf-0006dW-3A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:36:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUDWZ-0001wA-3k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:35:57 -0400 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:55515 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XUDWY-0001vc-Us for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:35:51 -0400 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 45D6CAC0A95; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:50:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A6ED6025B; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 12:35:45 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <87sijqxzr2.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Wed, 17 Sep 2014 12:17:21 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174413 Archived-At: phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > I'd add a fourth. People who want to extend Emacs for their own purposes > have to learn it. Having JS extensibility would be an enourmous win. >From what I've seen that isn't true. Most people learn just enough to fix their problem. Emacs Lisp is many people's least understood practical language (by which I mean, they understand enough to do something with it). A bit like Javascript used to be (how do I verify a form before it submits again?) Nic