From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:24:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87egrsdok7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvc8kdsp.fsf@gnu.org> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834msoqrsg.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419240312 21827 80.91.229.3 (22 Dec 2014 09:25:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 09:25:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Tom , Emacs-Devel devel To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 22 10:25:06 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2zEe-0000Fd-AU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:25:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39777 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2zEd-0006lw-IP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:25:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49017) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2zEY-0006ll-KX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:24:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2zEX-0008Ef-LS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:24:58 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47478) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2zEX-0008Eb-Hh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:24:57 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54653 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2zEX-00019S-0R; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:24:57 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E35BAE0515; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 10:24:56 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 22 Dec 2014 04:54:43 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180474 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: > This is not true. You do not have to search the whole internet just > because you use Google. You could do something like this: > > Google: "site:www.gnu.org/software/emacs/24.2/manual/ some thing" > > If that folder exists there, of course. A sizable number of bug reports on LilyPond, a reasonably actively developed and still evolving project, comes from users who try something from the manual and find out it doesn't work. Here usually the problem is the other way round: Google manages to turn up the newest manuals for the current development version, and people work with the next-to-previous stable version. The link the people will reference contains the version number right in it. And yet a considerable number of people gets tripped up by that. If you want to argue based on a mythical "fully competent computer user", the results will not be representative. -- David Kastrup