From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 09:46:35 +0200 Message-ID: <87eghkqp7o.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20150921165211.20434.28114@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <83fv27mt7r.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpvfix7i.fsf@gnu.org> <83fv23hr0z.fsf@gnu.org> <5605CB6B.4000102@cs.ucla.edu> <83twqhhf0g.fsf@gnu.org> <5606AC48.7090801@cs.ucla.edu> <83zj09fbzp.fsf@gnu.org> <5606C140.6090309@cs.ucla.edu> <878u7trwlb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5606E995.2000102@cs.ucla.edu> <83si61ezxd.fsf@gnu.org> <2FCA0DAD-831B-4B0A-B948-9F31DE52B6F0@gmail.com> <87twqgrgtv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56077423.6030800@cs.ucla.edu> <87pp14qvkf.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56079CF3.7060302@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443340016 9216 80.91.229.3 (27 Sep 2015 07:46:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 07:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 27 09:46:55 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg6fc-0003yt-D5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 09:46:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56450 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg6fb-0000Gr-VW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 03:46:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49762) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg6fP-0000Gi-2l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 03:46:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg6fO-00041s-8t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 03:46:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53468) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg6fM-00041T-NG; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 03:46:36 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39054 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg6fM-0004er-86; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 03:46:36 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C1128DF4A9; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 09:46:35 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <56079CF3.7060302@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Sun, 27 Sep 2015 00:38:27 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190382 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > David Kastrup wrote: >> How are you going to magically eradicate all pre-C11 files from Earth? > > Old C files will build just fine with newer GCC. And GCC can support > UTF-8 in strings even if you don't use the -std=c11 option. So this > is not a problem. Are we still talking about the defaults Emacs chooses when detecting the file encoding of C files? You seem about equally likely to argue against your own proposals than you are arguing for them. -- David Kastrup