From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New maintainer Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 08:15:41 +0200 Message-ID: <87egh9zvqq.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <560CCEBA.9080607@online.de> <874miapdhs.fsf@openmailbox.org> <8737xuuw2y.fsf@rabkins.net> <87lhbmkrle.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87si5r22qh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <8737xrweel.fsf@googlemail.com> <87r3lazla7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87bnce1ko7.fsf@googlemail.com> <87mvvyz5a8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87si5qi7zi.fsf@googlemail.com> <87io6mz0en.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83612l26ss.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444026251 24846 80.91.229.3 (5 Oct 2015 06:24:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 06:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jens.k.loewe@googlemail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 05 08:24:02 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZizBp-0007DF-7w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 08:24:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44490 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZizBo-0001oY-IS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 02:24:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52827) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZizBl-0001oQ-J0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 02:23:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZizBk-0007F9-HB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 02:23:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41237) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZizBk-0007F4-DO; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 02:23:56 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55056 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZizBj-0006Ou-HF; Mon, 05 Oct 2015 02:23:55 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 38FFEDF535; Mon, 5 Oct 2015 08:15:41 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83612l26ss.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 05 Oct 2015 09:00:51 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190920 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: David Kastrup >> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2015 01:20:16 +0200 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> >> Look, Windows 10 contains keyloggers that record any key combinations >> >> of you and send them to Redmond to "make your computing experience >> >> more enjoyable". >> > >> > You might have missed it, but Windows 10 *actually asks you* if you >> > want to enable this feature during the first set-up steps, so it's >> > basically opt-in. People who propagate the right to choose should >> > appreciate this IMO. >> >> You might have missed it, but Windows 10 goes ahead nevertheless. So >> far testers have not been able to find any settings that would not send >> a continuous string of data related to keypresses to Microsoft servers. > > Google did, among its first few hits: > > http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/603524/Windows-10-Microsoft-Key-Logger-Record-Privacy > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/windows-10-doesnt-offer-much-privacy-by-default-heres-how-to-fix-it/ Ah, but turning those settings off does not really suffice. -- David Kastrup