From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:47:44 +0200 Message-ID: <87egh3gfu7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <5610207A.2000300@harpegolden.net> <83fv1r3gzp.fsf@gnu.org> <83bncf3f9k.fsf@gnu.org> <5610E0BC.8090902@online.de> <83si5r106e.fsf@gnu.org> <831td9z18h.fsf@gnu.org> <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <87pp0ngksh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83zizrrqs2.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhbbggz4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83si5jroxg.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444474074 18475 80.91.229.3 (10 Oct 2015 10:47:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: adatgyujto@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 10 12:47:53 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkrgu-0008PA-56 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:47:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44412 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkrgt-0005hC-LX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:47:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45066) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkrgq-0005h5-7u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:47:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkrgp-0004E0-Br for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:47:48 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48469) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkrgo-0004DY-1v; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:47:46 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34054 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zkrgn-000181-Cx; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 06:47:45 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A6D16DF4E6; Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:47:44 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83si5jroxg.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 10 Oct 2015 13:35:55 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191122 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: David Kastrup >> Cc: adatgyujto@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2015 12:23:11 +0200 >> >> >> So people's hands are bound until a complete plan has been worked out >> >> and/or blessed by Richard >> > >> > No one's hands are bound. Whoever is motivated enough will find a >> > way to bypass the restrictions and limitations. >> >> That's not particularly inspiring. > > I hope it is. All I have is my personal example; Your personal example was not about a policy and decision outside of your influence ruling your work unwelcome. Your example was about overcoming technical difficulties and surpassing a threshold of code/performance quality. -- David Kastrup