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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218662 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:49:32 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > EZ> IOW, this sounds like a major undertaking on our part, and I'm sure > EZ> more and more issues will pop up as we consider the implications. I'm > EZ> not sure we want to become a de-facto "distro" for MS-Windows users, > EZ> as I don't think we have the resources, even if we have the desire. > > Agreed, I wasn't suggesting all of that. It does seem like a general > Emacs update process may be more appropriate, like Cygwin does, but > simple messaging is a lot easier and less risky. At the moment, we struggle to produce a nicely packaged windows binary, on time after every release (by "we" I mean "I" of course). Probably, I should talk to Chris Zheng (http://zklhp.github.io/emacs-w64/), he seems a bit quicker than me. To me, the sane "update" proceedure is "install a new version of emacs". If you want updating outside of that there are more holisitic solutions like chocolaty. Phil