From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs buglist old bugs are spamming me now [FW: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender] Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2019 00:19:55 +0200 Message-ID: <87ef61twxg.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <75d342ac-7178-4032-9881-d90c41cf31bf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="252403"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 17 00:20:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hGWQz-0013Wk-VJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 00:20:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43557 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hGWQy-0005zA-Se for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:20:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46330) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hGWQs-0005yt-NG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:20:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hGWQr-00060J-Oc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:20:02 -0400 Original-Received: from relayout04.e.movistar.es ([86.109.101.204]:29295 helo=relayout04-redir.e.movistar.es) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hGWQr-0005zo-FG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Apr 2019 18:20:01 -0400 Original-Received: from sky (81.red-79-151-7.dynamicip.rima-tde.net [79.151.7.81]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: 981711563@telefonica.net) by relayout04.e.movistar.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 44kKYS1lx5z11d2; Wed, 17 Apr 2019 00:19:56 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <75d342ac-7178-4032-9881-d90c41cf31bf@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:03:42 -0700 (PDT)") X-CTCH-Score: 0.000 X-CTCH-ScoreCust: 0.000 X-TnetOut-Country: IP: 79.151.7.81 | Country: ES X-TnetOut-Information: AntiSPAM and AntiVIRUS on relayout04 X-TnetOut-MsgID: 44kKYS1lx5z11d2.A1DF4 X-TnetOut-SpamCheck: no es spam, Unknown X-TnetOut-From: ofv@wanadoo.es X-TnetOut-Watermark: 1556057998.4952@EUN8L2vHLrPyKcjXY7UdUg X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 86.109.101.204 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:235557 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > I've received over 50 messages like this so far today, out of the > blue. Less than 50 here, but same thing. > Each has an attachment with an old bug-list message (see attachments). > > I'm hoping that someone is looking into this, or will do so. It seems that the "someone" that should be looking into this is stephen.berman@gmx.net (CCed). Those messages are all related to him. > -----Original Message----- > From: MAILER-DAEMON@linux-tuxedo.fritz.box > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 2:24 PM > To: Drew Adams > Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > > This is the mail system at host linux-tuxedo.fritz.box. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster. > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > The mail system > > : mail for localhost loops back to myself > > > From: Drew Adams > Subject: RE: emacs-25 f708cb2: Clarify doc string of 'transpose-sexps' > To: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 12:36:32 -0700 (PDT) (2 years, 23 weeks, 1 day ago) > >> > It is really not great to tell someone they "cannot" or >> > "must not" etc. do something without raising an error that >> > really enforces "cannot" etc. >> >> If someone comes up with a way to lift that restriction, we could >> remove this text from the doc string. but as long as the command >> works as it does, I think we should document that, or else we will >> have bug reports about its not meeting expectations. > > I did not suggest removing the text from the doc string. > > The point is that it is better if the code backs up what > the doc says, by raising an error if you try to do what > it says you cannot do. > > If `C-b' at bob did not raise an error, but instead just > moved point to the end of line 42, it would be scant help > to tell users in the doc of `C-b' that you cannot use it > at bob. > > --A3C471301C7F.1555449819/linux-tuxedo.fritz.box-- > ----------