From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Memory usage report Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2020 16:27:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87eemxrgdz.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87lfh8kyot.fsf@gnus.org> <83k0ws5hzt.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7rwkxtk.fsf@gnus.org> <83imcb61p7.fsf@gnu.org> <871rizl5mf.fsf@gnus.org> <83r1qz48h3.fsf@gnu.org> <871rizjogr.fsf@gnus.org> <83pn6j45rr.fsf@gnu.org> <87wo0ri6kz.fsf@gnus.org> <83o8m34433.fsf@gnu.org> <87imcb43e3.fsf@localhost> <83k0wr4222.fsf@gnu.org> <87zh5nfa95.fsf@gnus.org> <87mu1ndsez.fsf@gnus.org> <83d02j3x9t.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25505"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, yantar92@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 19 16:28:36 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJdqu-0006XD-BA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 16:28:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35132 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJdqt-0006St-DH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:28:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33294) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJdpp-0005qS-1C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:57684) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJdpn-0002tY-Cw; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:27:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=m0u6Gym4OdRvGGBICZnYTzoElrdHvJCTtYJ2is9PZyQ=; b=W7Ln761hk07isI4k6tDdRph31J mmwlxyrtaMulTjZkdGRHIgppImmWD5hM7o4zu6fQSlNE8JuJm+uQ4gMAi3Q+D4jSWUB0coxEiRysP tfvp/Yy3z0lrT1YpBL//0m1bGqdF4p02Uo8wojKaT8TJWKesTOHMtha9XYBuD1BVSo/c=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJdph-0004aw-OK; Sat, 19 Sep 2020 16:27:24 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEULBwZfOTOpa1vs 1Mr///8qN6K2AAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+QJEw4KDPd64J8AAAGjSURBVDjLnZPrdcMw CIXBWUDgBQwsUIv9dysPOXZ62j/VyUPOJy7iQgAAiKe6+9w81xzA8QUDQJQLcAMZeSICUA40d1Jb AHABnaQ+VZV9EqsAWIFt1kFllsI/gA8ksUmUYE8wOLXVzxA1J2BtgNKA/YxMpdVg076NeSvGmRXh WYPm4QuMzmH5G9GeYHYdVGCrgmVz8YMsAXIBkJXjsBKLgCw9HWmPfFh6GbcuN+IdNlTpEFlDcIxC EFZKlOtRMI9ogNAN4gEonjlqnRQa1MDytqmbihGNWTvAkY5oguoWWTqf3s+2KvLqjFis2t0UvKyK Rsd5Udm7prijW4Ps84nDlmEJun/1iejXgqndp37a/I7wpZpU7Y547w649x8AfgDsBuZsXEDXOSBY 69LcF4APMIHQHoAucLIL3iC2o8FXCI0PcCwQxTwBi64cMfUFWBr4AqdFmxOsKI25WVKahgPuWt0n XTlOJa3ZRTp6kq5bKUkWyGLns0AdHK+MIDseoP6sAC9P8YclX+9tDBbdYL63r8+I8bQU3ylw3SIx wi/rTwD/A98NUniNb/NXxQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMC0wOS0xOVQxNDoxMDoxMisw MDowME8PeyUAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjAtMDktMTlUMTQ6MTA6MTIrMDA6MDA+UsOZ AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Propaganda's _A Secret Wish (2)_: "Do Well (The First Cut-Duel-Jewel (Cut Rough)-Wonder-Bejewelled)" In-Reply-To: <83d02j3x9t.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 18 Sep 2020 18:44:14 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256171 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > That helm cache is stored in a hash-table, AFAIU, in which case we > should have seen that in the GC report. But that wouldn't have helped anybody pinpoint the issue with Helm. > But in all of the cases where people complained about such huge RSS, > the GC report shows a very small Lisp memory usage, so that helm cache > cannot be the culprit. It's something else, whether related to > helm-ff-keep-cached-candidates or some other feature. I just gave you an example of the opposite, and then you say "in all of the cases"? I'm not sure what you are arguing here, or even why you are arguing about this: Giving users a convenient way to examine (and rule out) certain memory usage problems surely can't be bad in itself. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no