From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lispref add-to-list - doc is unnecessary convoluted Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2020 09:35:47 +0100 Message-ID: <87eek6nf30.fsf@gnus.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5355"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Robin Tarsiger , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Arthur Miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 04 09:36:57 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kl6aH-0001HA-CU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2020 09:36:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47962 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kl6aG-0003u9-CI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2020 03:36:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58972) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kl6ZK-0003NB-Mn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2020 03:35:58 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:45516) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kl6ZJ-0006fl-4B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2020 03:35:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=RiSHXCed2IDc8qp7kx3z9JCzLILzkT3CQmeSugQfXqI=; b=d8PFRpS5X2AFZU9zgJpsj5s30a utoc3ZyP+9hRdaMXLLaffp7ovnsND2f6E4cJKwfNvdchheoWX6VWTM/JNm6k/H5FHYfDa/LuxDJ2W TNTBrMX35QVRpKA0y7uXIsPUzUUSktWsbjqz19aOrkK1TWYvsOh35HhouL3hb6OaYXas=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kl6ZA-00064a-N0; Fri, 04 Dec 2020 09:35:54 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAHlBMVEU4Xo1JbpdNdaBg j62aqrbv8+MtRnXZtYAnN2H///+0oGb7AAAAAWJLR0QJ8dml7AAAAAd0SU1FB+QMBAggJkIJeYUA AAGASURBVDjLdZNLTsQwDIZTCc16DFyg7g2aIPbTVByAZt9VNXuQ5gYox8aPPCvwLEb1l992HNsY YwDgGSerhvQF5DTXQfxoM8AEYIDnsQrsjCPAVeMgVgGRUSUcBquAJSASOd8IUvqrgqkFkgVM63dL JRk47xbvl5omARfC5gvgyySwhhD8ui0lDRqNFNS2WprJkdRaMNMlCvAVaKkZLI2C/3wGa9LMnKOJ JCIuOoG30Nun1XLn9QRCAnhWhBuF4ocN/4Cn8FcoepHXs3/jJhoaBud8Y9p3s8swtG/O9x6Bx+T0 5uIXQFP1zX2hFnxZ+76oX+p9YfBBTgU0JIMA0E6qwt1QJlFH+pQhjWgPUEpSSQfmBnAOVwQICdCG EHjo8Yn9lOJidm4K2umRB0q346CfrkIf6EJgL0siprUyYMmga4Vjznww2JUQk4UdRMBANHJR3bEE YgJUNh0u/ruJlRQ7FMSfE2FBZBCPTsRfUYGQvRxnQQIcrbVYQE/uDegQf/4CJrPmcJViBpAAAAAl dEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRlADIwMjAtMTItMDRUMDg6MzI6MzgrMDA6MDCzCjsXAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRl Om1vZGlmeQAyMDIwLTEyLTA0VDA4OjMyOjM4KzAwOjAwwleDqwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Edh's =?utf-8?Q?=5FV=C3=A4nskap?= 002_: "Slaughter" In-Reply-To: (Arthur Miller's message of "Fri, 04 Dec 2020 04:35:15 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260275 Archived-At: Arthur Miller writes: > But can we express it somewhat simpler? LIST-VALUE? Is it more > descriptive than SYMBOL or LIST-VAR. But it is a symbol. The description of the function is awkward because it's a really weird function. Comparing it with a more traditional function illustrates the difference: (setq foo '(3 2)) (add-to-list 'foo 1) (cons 1 foo) `add-to-list' takes a symbol as a parameter. `cons' takes a list as a parameter. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no