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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261867 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Sure, as a practical matter, adding an optional LIMIT to length is > probably the way to implement this. But I think adding some predicates > (like the length< etc predicated proposed by Tomas) as wrappers around > calls to length with LIMIT makes sense for code readability. Actually... looking a Flength, perhaps not adding an optional parameter would be better. I mean, the only type that's not constant in time is the length of lists, so I think perhaps it would just be confusing. Adding length=, length< and length> (as C functions) seems pretty trivial -- punt to Flength for anything that's not a list, and handle lists specially. Those would have clear semantics, be fast, not make Flength calls any slower, and not add more complicated semantics to Flength. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no