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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:268328 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: Hi Stefan, >> This command is triggered by error report(s) on the Tramp ML. Scenario: >> - Run an older Emacs version, say 27.2. >> - Load tramp.el (this happens often, implicitly) >> - Install Tramp 2.5.0.3 from GNU ELPA >> >> There is a compilation error, because the already loaded tramp-compat.el >> does not fit the expectations of Tramp 2.5.0.3. > > I think we should treat this is a bug in package.el: we already have > code to try and avoid such problems, so apparently it doesn't do its job > in this case. The point is that simply unloading Tramp didn't work. That's why I start a new Emacs instance via "emacs -Q" for recompilation. Maybe we could use this approach in package.el? I'll happily remove tramp-recompile-elpa from Tramp once recompilation is fixed in package.el. But since Tramp is backwards compatible (down to Emacs 25.1 ATM), this will take years. >>> [ Also, I don't see why we need `tramp-recompile-elpa`. >>> I do see a need for `M-x package-recompile`, OTOH. ] >> D'accord. > > Patches warmly welcome, I'll have a look on it. No promise for a working patch, of course. > Stefan Best regards, Michael.