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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:269720 Archived-At: Alan Third writes: > I don't really care one way or the other, I'm already using my new > ThinkPad as my daily driver and it would be quite nice to see the back > of the people on Reddit telling me I'm actively harming the Free > Software movement by maintaining the NS port instead of letting it die > so everyone is forced to use the Mac port. > I for one have appreciated all the hard work maintaining the NS port. Diversity in the macOS world is likely the only way Emacs will survive on that platform, so I'm pleased we have both the NS and 'macport' versions. Thank you for your contributions. Reddit can be a toxic environment full of ill-informed opinion. The only place I see more bad advice is stack overflow. I find my quality of life without reddit is higher than with it! -- Tim Cross