From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The new keymap functions Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2021 08:55:35 +0100 Message-ID: <87ee7fp66g.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87zgq8sfw3.fsf@gnus.org> <87v90s7dp6.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34646"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 17 08:57:04 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mnFoV-0008lt-14 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 08:57:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42018 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnFoT-0007Ga-NV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 02:57:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnFnO-000662-SW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 02:55:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=52600 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnFnI-00058S-HE; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 02:55:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vwzJ1vZWRwUwSgCkRs7Lbx2UisE/X+quX8iePj/gNt4=; b=OvHGGYfOjDOoZav+uIGwiEWE8H I/4JFP6Aq1/h+fR/VwsTndGVYQSOtfdNkk0ZRmC9FGYZQvj4eXyaPMCUVirvEHplJ6n+VRNaifUus zEj+wy+oEdEHC4oIS1Ow+9C8CwiS4iISrkS08u+NSyJAVVzm39q4zeUzsoSmaDZwyl+Y=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mnFn6-0005pA-O0; Wed, 17 Nov 2021 08:55:39 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEVHP0cmQI6MenXR ycn////P/ekvAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+ULEQcVOXjXWeMAAAG6SURBVDjLhVSJkeMw DEOoBtapgCYb0JH993YgJTvJ7t6ck/FkBOMhJAeP4/cLb8BZt+f5HXia2SlqP4ADX8DxeEk9/+VB wM2tLvUIS/4IX0A+w1QAyQxPFc888bDj+FMEAFywnGKZc5mL2bRNCHA9cTQDrkOUhCUUOQv4KvPJ AUYJNSGAJaVIqLWzGY30AgxDRZrAexE2ICoh2g7Fs3kBoDGtJY0jVC6xLSXUGrqihlXus4Hg1IGK mu18AwmDV1RfzhK6pJI6nKJnJgGkLsZInWBJmwCWvVOVIz9MxJbVBb4YzMOqqiSrxhIYGxgcSosg BspxogXQLkZwgc4sYMxxAz5HVNs1gyblLoBdpWclGjFY9g208qQ1XIIjvYDR5ZWHVy8bmF0PV9mf T38BVQMJYNiRTXhJYdT56ZpqPc59fPi0F29MtJIuwBi0jCmIJsy9tR4Vp9Y3YWJvlM82kFjrmeMl BfabNXO+paIvhYo3OtINWDuQt2aoTu45CAy9HPID6LFrhA9A+luHdAe7ALrM2vTaE//simmNu65L 7w1Q5XtYFX8zF/QLjSvYvR88+fWi70ku4H//Ph/XX9FVbhYgJO4MAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0 ZQAyMDIxLTExLTE3VDA3OjIxOjU3KzAwOjAwlPRuVwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMS0x MS0xN1QwNzoyMTo1NyswMDowMOWp1usAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: The Beatles's _1967-1970 (1)_: "Revolution" In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 16 Nov 2021 23:16:13 -0500") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279612 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > Like I said before -- all these functions destructively modify a keymap, > > That is true, but what users think of operating on is a key sequence, > not the keymap. Perhaps they think that because we've called the functions stuff like `define-key'. (Which we're now not doing.) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no