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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282560 Archived-At: Akira Kyle writes: >> If you play a GIF that depicts a scrolling WebKitWebView, you can't >> really "scroll" it independently either. Ditto for xwidgets. > I would argue that most users would expect scrolling an xwidget webkit > buffer that is visible in two windows to behave like eww, not like > advancing a frame in a GIF. That paradigm being that each window is a > separate view into a buffer where the position in the buffer that the > window displays is independent of any other window (ie is window > local). The only paradigm I see is that a single glyph (such as an xwidget glyph, produced by a display property) should be able to display in multiple windows, which this implementation (and the GIF display as well) fulfils.