From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [nongnu] main 74116339a8 2/3: * elpa-packages (anzu): New package Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 08:57:33 +0000 Message-ID: <87ee54umpu.fsf@posteo.net> References: <164145738158.2838.5769558384331859964@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20220106082302.0A19CC0DA1E@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87k0fdmbat.fsf@posteo.net> <87tueh3s2x.fsf@posteo.net> <87mtjvd10u.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34201"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 19 16:34:16 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nACyV-0008jc-En for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 16:34:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56922 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nACyT-0006bo-MB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:34:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33480) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nACWg-0000nE-RL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:05:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:51793) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nACWd-00088x-3z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:05:30 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D82FF240106 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 16:05:23 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1642604723; bh=v8ipuaMPn2c23+2fwiJt1ZPS1ftfg6R/x5mZC5zL33Y=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Autocrypt:From; b=Wj4H4lVBTF5ei+Mz1l3XzDwsTnFdYyEq1g2as2CccQbM2D83OJjWIWBrf5WDMzmaJ iOxjwT/s7ODe+b6dn9tulB7TF4zsji7PK3nUBqWvmrsOtDnvrr0RLdEMM/zLVgxBHo o2Ti9cU6EO+LdaZvV9tr7OhtwMxt5QYMoEchLw3fxCe/rer+nEPwHhWza/Sk5IfYgu aDp58iwh2azFtkMQd/KYTL1LSQUW2mkMwC2B7RJLBXVb5ORZNOlZ3Xhz9yv4mK1hHI DKxla808pHZ4MKiwy4YVPe/iUmCod+hSQeVZ/nGPPAsKDOUhXCJwUj1zdOGaO/Dwvn +uGFwMqHAzg7g== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Jf88L65x4z6tnZ; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 16:05:22 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 16 Jan 2022 17:19:23 -0500") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=1.543, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284986 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >>> I also think we should have a "rating" system in place, which should >>> also somehow include information on which version/date the user rated >>> the package in. >> Would also be nice. > > I don't know how to do that, OTOH (at least in a way that's not too > susceptible to ridiculous amounts of bias). "Bias" in what sense? >>> I'm not sure if we should have a public record of packages we decide >>> *not* to add. If we did, one place to put it would be just directly >>> `nongnu/elpa-packages` itself, in the regular alphabetical order, which >>> is a place you're less likely to forget looking in. >> It might not be bad to collect these notes somewhere. > > I agree with Stefan (the usurper) in that `elpa-packages` is a good > place for that. Ok, I am fine with that. >> But as the package is already borderline heretical, I hesitate to do >> something like this (the same applies to updating the default rcirc >> and erc server lists). > > Maybe we can make it safe enough via something like > > (when (member package-archives > '((("gnu" . "https://...")) > (("gnu" . "http://...")))) > (add-to-list 'package-archives '("nongnu" . ...))) > > so it only adds the entry when nothing's been changed yet. Yes, this was my idea. -- Philip Kaludercic