From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Convert README.org to plain text README while installing package Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2022 13:15:10 +0200 Message-ID: <87ee038ipt.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87leuca7v7.fsf@disroot.org> <87czfopmsd.fsf@gnu.org> <87h74ztshe.fsf@gmx.de> <871qw31ois.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735gj4ceo.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18175"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Po Lu , Alan Mackenzie , Stefan Kangas , Akib Azmain Turja , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tassilo Horn Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 05 13:19:40 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nxoIG-0004Xb-My for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 13:19:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39226 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nxoIF-0004JV-6q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 07:19:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37618) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nxoE9-0002FB-IR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 07:15:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:56283) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nxoE5-0007CP-1c; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 07:15:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1654427712; bh=sR8RMnwYwNZ/rBB0u3ZuzZRuW1RbsnVk+6R1/rZ/ww0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=iPWwhhOdNdAist30iC6PAAblZmEbZOb+b3OiI/we9uLyK3P+4FsiVUIy5WJNEMQKF J0aQP1HXSoa8rSLcm+4TR5xQmZ0+MVuxrr7DWvxQb8R27Jz0cJZY6sJ4idDeISB8rM zMZJMNwfwdUzCKeGLmhxfy1razUw0mD2lom+U0iU= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([213.220.156.59]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MsYux-1nemMm32zL-00u1lL; Sun, 05 Jun 2022 13:15:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8735gj4ceo.fsf@gnu.org> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Sun, 05 Jun 2022 12:26:44 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:bEl2E3r2SXA+2AFnnjiwSf4FaBJqjfypHtzgHt3p/42GzjEw57Y m0HesSAj+HwPGvbwUJ+ZgLf7uhd5C3RXRwXxdbhOXOb1FNzD1tpZ4KPJgpt4RW1bvtTAlAF Pz/vRgrT5b/USOTrmH6P1LBIhawZVHRbnxqupxPjgoJL0b0djv4j3QXurFxiALzlxN7VcOm c2uj9rGSj54fcrWnw5rqw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:S30QCs1g9dg=:Iw7u5gTPkHYz0/PApuXOYv FtufF/LSSaxQZjULVKLC/FygEdI9ZGTHImAMG+GDEK7l2LlfTL8SGa5JirAe9tqGdBiU90mdD Z3IC19o5EJ08jqH5R8D3ZSvxvI0YK6q6ICR4IV71SdQwqFR0hWgvYJ9+t5eYOEzXmnM8Ze32y bQ4GRwOApjShVR7CzTymLVTVLcMJ3vcH3V8LwgDK+6vrhOscS6crFRHgNHhH3nztenw9dClh1 1+jkmX22873wWTODCMPapkGSIVCEV2rljWj3DY1plgD5pNTGAbAXxxlMUCPoiGi8Y+pshdxcA 6B9tKRbjByS55DpEYmaMx9dOmCflm87uew2+d3o43B5itIHzqLzpSLoDrcQ+31N86bCG5RRqZ xweJwlMlb38jngOlwX0SOJ4QSoHSNeinaGGGfMlcwEMBth1PndkA3d6fLN9NT1ohKQ0aw6A+d 9Gwn+7F0JNFWE0rj0bX4igRYOUdkZRrRcgO/LHV2xen7vMpaZ8FTjGyvOhcfP4FRBxxGaZPxZ 3DNaxz+OEh5fora1SSJr+1h22Kb7WiYChIeD13S5GSkjZM0st2db2KUxk0WOdyRnp84HRFXBP Zrnrzs2DGjA9/3I7nxM5NC0e1xHxKhys3dudAhjej0HYAaRV4x+jXtrS9Lq5lF4bxzZlkXTve TDYZ8rPPgMLf2U8ufsZOB207q7OvseIN577QE+uSeErCLKb9kBGYLSdhGCUFOvxVL7nDzKmAQ NM23rn2VZvv0b0Z0PVKfjvL5lnGsBknPDHCNdFMNxaq58KN56PtiOVRidHSqFwUyxU/X8Ajd Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.20; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290689 Archived-At: Tassilo Horn writes: Hi Tassilo, >>>> I disagree entirely with you. Org mode is highly complicated, >>>> obscure (I've never managed to get a feel for what it does), and >>>> difficult to learn (I've never managed it). A text file is far >>>> easier to read for those not familiar with org. We're talking about >>>> READMEs here. They're typically 20 to 100 lines long. A text file >>>> is ideal for these. >>> >>> 1+. README is a text file which is consulted in order to get >>> information about the related software. There's no rule to visit it >>> by Emacs only. > > People nowadays write README.org and README.md files instead of > plain-text READMEs because the packages' repositories are hosted on some > forge (sr.ht, github, gitlab, gitea, whatever) which supports rendering > those formats in a nice way. So the choice of format is natural for > package authors. And they frequently contain markup like headings, > bullet lists, bold, italics, and code snippets which simply look much > better than their text-only alternative (even in their > editing/non-rendered versions). Not everybody uses Github/Gitlab/ infrastructure exclusively. There are dinosaurs like me, who simply inspect tarballs and alike. I have no problem if there are structured README.org or README.md files in parallel. But a README file should be plain text. > Bye, > Tassilo Best regards, Michael.