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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291278 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > However, we have special blocks for this purpose. They are extendable, > > as I descibed above. Though some improvements in Org core might be > > needed if we have to use this extensibility more frequently. > > Maybe that is sufficient. It would be ok to use, for manuals, a > submode which extend the usual Org facilities. Submode is what I am inclined to. All these @var and @dfn constructs only make sense for software documentation. Org is aiming much more general writeup. > But it would be good for that submode to define shorter command names > for these. Could you please elaborate? Which parts of the Org syntax you find too long? Best, Ihor