From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Display of undisplayable characters: \U01F3A8 instead of diamond Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:40:33 +0200 Message-ID: <87edx3filq.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <834jxz33m9.fsf@gnu.org> <87edx3h0qu.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87tu5zfjyx.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="563"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:+kpnpJ9RAtso1EAUt74qQ/yPbXc= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 26 11:42:34 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oRVrG-000AX2-8j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:42:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47926 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRVrF-0000Xx-2g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 05:42:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56880) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRVpl-0008HB-Pi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 05:41:01 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:43874) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oRVpf-0003ug-PN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 05:41:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oRVpQ-0008HK-5p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:40:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294146 Archived-At: Yuri Khan wrote: >>> I do not know the history of replacing an undisplayable >>> character with a diamond. The U+FFFD Replacement Character >>> glyph looks similar, but the cause/consequence link might >>> be in either direction. >> >> Can't we check this with the Emacs source if that's where >> the change happened? > > No, because the replacement with diamond happens in the > Linux console no matter if Emacs or something else > is running. > > bash$ echo $'\U0001F4A9' > ♦ ??? (insert-char #x1f3a8) 🎨 ^^^^^^^^ not a diamond anymore! (i.e., the fffd: �) but instead 8 chars, \U01F3A8 Wait, I'll post a screenshot ... -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal