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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295219 Archived-At: Hello, On Mon 12 Sep 2022 at 01:50PM -04, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> C-x w 2 split-root-window-below >> C-x w 3 split-root-window-right > > While I understand the desire to follow the `C-x 2` and `C-x 3` > tradition, these numbers don't actually carry much useful intuition. > How 'bout `C-x w -` and `C-x w |` instead? > > Of course, it'd also be nice to bring together/closer the root and > non-root variants of those operations, but I have no good suggestion > here, other than to suggest to use a new command which doesn't accept > a numeric argument at all and only uses `C-u` to choose between a root > split and non-root split. That's because I personally never use that > numeric argument, and prefer to resize the windows afterwards rather > than try to guess sizes beforehand. This is nice, but here are a couple of arguments in favour of 'C-x w 2' and 'C-x w 3': (1) it's good to be able to use up 'C-x w 2' and 'C-x w 3' for these commands and thereby save 'C-x w -' and 'C-x w |' for other commands, because we're unlikely to be able to put anything else on 'C-x w 2' and 'C-x w 3'. This seems especially important given that the -root-window- commands are not going to see heavy use, compared with, e.g., fit-window-to-buffer (where C-x w - follows C-x -). (2) again given that the -root-window- commands will be rarely used, I think the similarity with the existing commands will make 'C-x w 2' and 'C-x w 3' easier to memorise / recall-with-effort. -- Sean Whitton