From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296497 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Hi all, Jo=C3=A3o, > > Now that we're getting closer to merging eglot, I think it is our last > chance to (re-)consider that "eglot" is not the ideal name. It has some > charm, of course, but it is quite non-descriptive and it's hard (read: > impossible) to understand what it does based on the name alone.[1] I can only agree. Especially because there are a number of packages starting with "el...", which makes misreading the package name as "elgot" very easy (which is still how I pronounce the package when speaking to this day). > As for names, lsp-mode would be the obvious choice, but some other > package has occupied that prefix (too bad). I therefore propose > renaming it to elsp-mode and using the elsp-* prefix for it. > > At the very least, we should consider adding some alias, like > `start-lsp', and/or `lsp-start'.[2] I think that even using the word "lsp" suffers from the same issue, as a lot of people still have no idea what LSP is (even if they are using it). I don't have a better suggestion but maybe mentioning the word "intelligence" or "ide" would be better. > Footnotes: > [1] https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-devel/2020-05/msg02828.html > > [2] https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-devel/2020-05/msg02818.html