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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299186 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: >>> 1. Get use-package in ELPA >>> 2. Complete all documentation >>> 3. Prepare documentation in texinfo >>> Will cross that bridge when 2 is done. > > While we are at it, is there a rationale for this order? I mean, there > is no hurry, right? My misunderstanding was that the order was 2 -> 3 -> > 1. Or are you planning to have use-package ready for Emacs 29? If you mean merging use-package into emacs.git, that will definitely not be happening (at least if I'm the only one working on it). As for the order rationale, getting use-package to ELPA means less friction and more users can try it out, more feedback, more eyeballs, basically. Ultimate aim here is to make use-package to emacs.git, so users have use-package available without any effort. ELPA is just a step in that direction. 1 -> 2 -> 3 is also how Eglot went about and it worked quite well for it. >From my understanding, ELPA has less stringent requirements for documentation and testing compared to core. Since I cannot commit enough time to complete all the tasks before expected 29 branch-off, ELPA is a good compromise IMO. --