From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: dict Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 14:14:45 +0000 Message-ID: <87ednnvtt6.fsf@posteo.net> References: <834joj55pt.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33768"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eshel Yaron , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 11 16:15:46 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1px757-0008bJ-KD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 11 May 2023 16:15:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1px74H-0007Qm-PT; Thu, 11 May 2023 10:14:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1px74G-0007Qe-5s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 May 2023 10:14:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1px74E-0005Ey-GN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 May 2023 10:14:51 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45A202400C1 for ; Thu, 11 May 2023 16:14:47 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1683814487; bh=NGq/cgJtihzCZvObb6FV34tp3yThXySwL5tDiObs+QM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding:From; b=NkoygKPS5ym8o/ncHD3Ms9v6S/EwYT9776UVqHsJqRFvI1aTmULOfxJzmQne0nOY5 EDvRig7BRY1UlGc1WltjjoU7xpumjsoP8qn69c5jYC6f9gN0JtFtLaa4kM//aJj6LL ZqpALqxDjfA0p15Er0gRGFFzbllHB52BoEAfhGVKI8N2L/Kl6rkNMrG0S+FOPwkndM 6oCuRSH0Wif6Fml9VjH2JaThtgLbxAvg0AvCdF/A9WcO4dSYNzIbmdAxX7p3j5O8e9 AEG6V6AqICP/H0r1wFNq3KcBDQIEesg18FvDH0R8iTzaalXRNJmUS4871DrLTBNnZp 6zFSrbirJvQ6A== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4QHDRp5sWZz6ty1; Thu, 11 May 2023 16:14:46 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <834joj55pt.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 11 May 2023 16:59:42 +0300") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306059 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Eshel Yaron >> Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 16:22:06 +0300 >>=20 >> The main motivation behind this package was to resolve some usability is= sues >> that I came across with dictionary.el. Namely, I'm not satisfied with t= he fact >> that dictionary.el unconditionally switches to the *Dictionary* buffer w= hen >> displaying a definition, and I don't appreciate how it tries to remember= my >> previous windows configuration and revert back to it when I close the >> *Dictionary* buffer with the q key. Of course, I'm open to the possibil= ity of >> modifying dictionary.el instead of adding this separate package GNU ELPA= if >> anyone thinks that's preferable, but I also think it would be nice to le= t people >> try out Dict and get some feedback beforehand. > > I think if we could augment dictionary.el so as to satisfy your needs, > perhaps as some kind of minor mode or user option, that would be > better than having an entirely separate package. I don't think that is possible, Eshel writes on his website: Dict=E2=80=99s differentiation comes from its simplicity and extensibility=E2=80=93while dictionary.el defines a bespoke major mode a= nd interface for browsing word definitions, Dict leverages Emacs=E2=80=99s = Help mode by default, and let=E2=80=99s you extend and control every aspect o= f its behavior via customization options. dict.el is also shorter than dictionary.el=E2=80=93just under 300 lines = of code! This is a ERC vs rcirc like situation. > Thanks.