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From: Manuel Giraud via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>,
	 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Control help- and Info-mode buffers from other buffers
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2023 15:49:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edms4pwi.fsf@ledu-giraud.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <863539sv46.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Fri,  02 Jun 2023 19:13:30 +0300")

Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:

>> I hope I am not misunderstood here. I certainly don't dislike what Juri does; on
>> contrary. I made that Reddit thread because I very much was looking for
>> something similar, and I am using pre/post hack myself. However I see some
>> fundamental issue in how Emacs works, which I am not sure can be easily overcom,
>> but if Juri can fix them I will certainly be a happy user :).
>
> It seems these fundamental issues can't be fixed without changing core functions.
> The problem is that another window's buffer should be selected before reading
> a key sequence in it and executing the bound command.  So the only reliable
> alternative is to have global keymaps with tons of commands that use with-selected-window.
> To make them at least more general that just Help/Info specific, a better pattern
> would be to base these commands on 'scroll-other-window', e.g.
>
>   (defun forward-char-other-window (&optional n)
>     (interactive "P")
>     (with-selected-window (other-window-for-scrolling)
>       (forward-char n)))

Hi,

Maybe I'm missing something but I thought that Arthur proposition was
more specific to "help" buffers.  So maybe following this pattern it
could be something like this:

  (defun scroll-other-help (&optional lines)
    (interactive "P")
    (with-selected-window (other-help-window)
      (scroll-up-command n)))

… but then, we'd have to imagine what 'other-help-window' is.
-- 
Manuel Giraud



  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-03 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-30  5:38 Control help- and Info-mode buffers from other buffers Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 12:54 ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-30 13:31   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 15:22     ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-05-30 17:29     ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-31  5:55       ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-31 17:13         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  3:16           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  6:35             ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  7:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01  7:20                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  9:03                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:55                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 14:01                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:16                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01  9:58                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 13:45                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 16:19                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  1:26                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  6:34                             ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02 15:11                               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02 15:29                               ` Yuri Khan
2023-06-02 16:32                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:09                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  7:11                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02 15:09                               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02 15:16                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-03 13:53                                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-03 14:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-03 15:06                                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-03 15:15                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 14:19                                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 14:33                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04  7:52                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:04                                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 16:50                                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-02 16:13                                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-03 13:49                                   ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2023-06-04  7:44                                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04  8:50                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 13:40                                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-06-04 13:53                                           ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 14:00                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-06-04 14:20                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-04 13:38                                       ` Manuel Giraud via Emacs development discussions.
2023-06-04  7:48                                   ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  8:50               ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 10:04                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-01 11:33                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-01 16:39                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01 19:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-02  1:10                   ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-02  6:32                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-04 14:41                       ` Arthur Miller
2023-06-04 16:54                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-06-01  6:31           ` Juri Linkov
2023-05-30 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-05-31  6:38   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-30 18:04 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2023-05-31  6:06   ` Arthur Miller
2023-05-31 13:00     ` Drew Adams
2023-05-31 13:27       ` Arthur Miller

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