From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Shrinking the C core Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:38:55 +0200 Message-ID: <87edivz2y8.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <87il8betof.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87jzspcgc9.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32846"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:gjQvRBGMwpKIITxBt2Koi+sCKjI= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 19 04:22:17 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qiQNU-0008Jo-So for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 19 Sep 2023 04:22:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qiQMd-0004in-8S; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 22:21:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qiK5S-0004JD-77 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 15:39:15 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qiK5L-0006DD-OZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 15:39:13 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qiK5G-0004I5-MA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Sep 2023 21:39:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 22:21:22 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310729 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: >> For functions like `cl-incf', where there is no >> corresponding "incf" [I don't know whatever happened to it >> or why it was dropped, or maybe it wasn't ever there before >> cl-lib?] [...] > > The CL emulation was originally in file `cl.el' and its > helper files, such as `cl-macs.el'. At that time > functions/macros such as `cl-incf' and `cl-case' had no > `cl-' prefix. [...] > > There's no `incf' or `case' in Elisp that would conflict > with the CL-emulation definitions, but when Someone decided > to prefix CL thingies with `cl-' the decision was to do it > wholesale, not just where there was a collision/conflict > with existing Elisp thingies. Ah, I see! Thanks for explaining. So I remembered correctly then, that I did use "incf" before `cl-incf'! -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal