From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.orgmode Subject: Re: Sv: Sv: Modularizing Org as GSoC project (was: New Emacs features via Google Summer of Code (or other similar stipend schemes) (was: as for Calc and the math library)) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2024 12:20:34 +0000 Message-ID: <87ed64nast.fsf@localhost> References: <87v7zvay9a.fsf@localhost> <87r0agbvb3.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="633"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "emacs-devel@gnu.org" , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" To: arthur miller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 31 14:20:29 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1skN5h-000AWg-ED for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 14:20:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1skN4Y-00066K-B2; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 08:19:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1skN4W-000663-PW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 08:19:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1skN4T-00064E-Uo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 08:19:15 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A332240103 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 14:19:09 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1725106750; bh=NvCgxj722IHR2BIMDOu71+t9Y1H7ldKD6ptuUnfX/74=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=mqcDBlzutftXZ4w0YcnKv+juV4Ilxa+o1JWuJx+s3GxsKukqDrR4rLtFKa4MJiSQZ DbUXQaU+YmCS41bRW5WJqS+oh+R36lqrzxvujHdp7Y+PhlX5E+SbpNFd45xmMKGpqr AG1UuW0GuaPgcVnBbA3VPT2blJ1V+boJmga+KhwjCrX7K2dHA/7QfGPhvNsqYp1n5i /fIlwxeJKvINC3MCnvWC2OL8gEBgyZVHH2dHBKHsuq4UY8IJCBU9reSfUgbpX5a6SE vPSsJ973Ywsv5aIkc4fcDfphPV0xE2Z06CILQIy8PnAFSW1/c8sppsTNmm87mADLKH fAVW5xercShlA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4WwvFn0hCVz6txn; Sat, 31 Aug 2024 14:19:08 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323236 gmane.emacs.orgmode:163079 Archived-At: arthur miller writes: >>> Well, part of it. Or more to make some parts of org-markup configurable, and >>> usable as minor modes so they can be easier used outside of org-mode. >> >>This is not the direction Org mode project is going. We do the reverse - >>Org markup is getting more stable, with the aim to simplify developing >>third-party parsers and eventually registering Org syntax in IANA MIME db. > > I am not subscribed to mailing lists due to lots of trafic going on there, so I > am not overly introduced in directions in which org goes, so forgive me if I am > not so familiar with the latest features. Sorry, I did not intend my comment to sound personal. I just explained why configurable markup is not something I see as a good idea. > Well, yes something like that; make features available outside of org-mode, and > make org-mode use those features instead of having everything in a monolithical > library. > ... To conclude, we may use these ideas for GSoC projects, but maybe separately. I doubt that "modularizing" in general would be a reasonable task to finish within summer. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at