From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pip Cet via "Emacs development discussions." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Improving EQ Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:46:55 +0000 Message-ID: <87ed2ciylb.fsf@protonmail.com> References: <87h679kftn.fsf@protonmail.com> <86frmt1k6w.fsf@gnu.org> <871pydjo23.fsf@protonmail.com> Reply-To: Pip Cet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3469"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "Pip Cet via \"Emacs development discussions.\"" , Eli Zaretskii , =?utf-8?Q?Mattias_Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= , Paul Eggert To: Andrea Corallo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 12 19:50:23 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tLoGT-0000ja-TI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2024 19:50:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tLoFh-0002F3-8v; Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:49:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tLnHK-0001Bp-4r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2024 12:47:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-4322.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.22]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tLnHA-0004RD-3e; Thu, 12 Dec 2024 12:47:09 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1734025617; x=1734284817; bh=w6t2Gt/kmHAhw853fX2AZ0woDqLRfaUL/nebLmRLlnU=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector:List-Unsubscribe:List-Unsubscribe-Post; b=ND3orDR9tVg50MejE/lduRK/8CzqxYixW9qgbzNgTiYIdHraLSaXhZpt0xFy9bGNv 5gc6xckkWE5iif7qct5ZLK+hWQkqNczO/eGmiAYk8oB5x5lDphAEiRHlDNERgnu26t YePsPu3ttlUnAeTNbXO5GRkar33C9Vrr8swr+X2cg6gkrhbxUZRYTij/3ZYa6UhRhz 8dBG1YuhOQOfn3tLrxj+qYFi+6lJGIp97rBSC25ERypdS0qgWjv88nncScm+sgQffg zfOVk4MGL9WvMmk8n5LDa6SN93OCt8Cqc5C7Oc2IHX72QvL+kFWwdRKnmmqW1raiSR AEadxyc3Jvubg== In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: 112775352:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 9c93f056c2f3e2b14c2d770cbde56c0c52962e6c Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.22; envelope-from=pipcet@protonmail.com; helo=mail-4322.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 12 Dec 2024 13:49:26 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326438 Archived-At: "Andrea Corallo" writes: > Pip Cet via "Emacs development discussions." > writes: > >> "Eli Zaretskii" writes: >> >>>> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2024 22:37:04 +0000 >>>> From: Pip Cet via "Emacs development discussions." >>>> >>>> What's missing here is a benchmark, but unless there's a really nasty >>>> surprise when that happens, I'm quite confident that we can improve th= e >>>> code here. >>> >>> The usual easy benchmark is to byte-compile all the *.el files in the >>> source tree. That is, remove all the *.elc files, then say "make" and >>> time that. >> >> Considering the point of the optimization was to make compilation (when >> symbols_with_pos_enabled is true) slower, but speed up non-compilation >> use cases, I think that may be the opposite of what we want :-) > > Glad you finally agree on the goal of the optimization. I find that statement to be offensive, because you know it to be factually incorrect; but even if it weren't, gloating like that is extremely poor form for a maintainer. Pip