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From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	 emacs-devel@gnu.org,  Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com>
Subject: Re: Merging scratch/no-purespace to remove unexec and purespace
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 08:11:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ed2579eg.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADwFkm=TAGyD7ZwVUGwYFzmota3rccNkyDepoRoNPR7b7dwD-A@mail.gmail.com> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Tue, 17 Dec 2024 18:15:49 -0800")

On Tue, Dec 17 2024, Stefan Kangas wrote:

> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
[...]
>> That's because the pdump already fails to take advantage of the
>> purespace (i.e. the GC traces through the purespace like the rest of
>> the heap).
>
> I'll note that the best solution to that is to have a generational GC
> instead.  Simple, right?

A generational GC is definitely simpler.  Whether it's the "best"
solution is not so clear: A copying GC, like MPS, still needs to trace
and copy pure objects whenever the oldest generation is in the condemned
set.  Moving pure objects to a non-moving pool might be better.

> It's not entirely unrelated though: among other things, one reason why
> merging this would be good is that it would reportedly simplify the work
> on the igc branch.  And indeed any GC-related work now or in future.

Objects in purespace are immutable and immortal.  That's potentially
useful information for the GC.  Removing purespace also removes that
information.  Of course, if the pdumper already throws away this
information, then purespace just adds useless complexity.

Helmut



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-18  7:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-17 10:47 Merging scratch/no-purespace to remove unexec and purespace Stefan Kangas
2024-12-17 13:12 ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 14:20   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 14:30     ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 17:56       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 18:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-17 18:56           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-18 12:55             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-18 14:03               ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-18 16:05                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18 16:30                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-18  0:18         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-17 19:30 ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-17 20:47   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-18  2:15     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-18  7:11       ` Helmut Eller [this message]
2024-12-18 13:35         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18  6:56     ` Helmut Eller
2024-12-18  9:30   ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-18  0:50 ` Po Lu
2024-12-18  2:12   ` Stefan Kangas

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