From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: desktop.el: autosave? Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:28:32 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87d4tk22dz.fsf@jurta.org> References: <8763zjfe0v.fsf@jurta.org> <87mysridxt.fsf@jurta.org> <47550419.2080503@gmx.at> <47566942.9090208@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196894489 21817 80.91.229.12 (5 Dec 2007 22:41:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 22:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 05 23:41:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J02vg-0007wh-Mx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:41:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J02vQ-0003QP-2d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:41:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J02vH-0003IO-JK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:40:55 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J02vF-0003Fb-Nl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:40:54 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J02vF-0003FE-Bb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:40:53 -0500 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J02vA-0000aa-DH; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:40:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1J02v6-000Oox-7b; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:40:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <47566942.9090208@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:02:58 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 69470ef176344869aa12c1af2e75e870 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1857 [Dec 05 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 19 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84755 Archived-At: >> > I'm not sure an idle timer is good for this feature. I want to >> > auto-save the desktop at quite long time intervals (an hour or >> > so), but usually Emacs is not idle for this time. So it seems >> > we need a non-idle timer. >> >> Two timers? The non-idle one triggers (after an hour or so) an idle one. >> >> That's a strange idea. > > It occurred to me because Juri wanted to auto-save the desktop only > every hour. Hence, I'd first wait for an hour and then until Emacs > has become idle for at least five minutes. Yes, having two parallel timers with an idle timer run with a short delay will save the desktop too often which is undesirable. So your idea is reasonable unless there is a more suitable solution with using just one timer. >> My idea is that they both trigger saving. > > Wouldn't it be sufficient to have one idle timer which triggers > auto-saving only if some timeout has elapsed since the last auto-save > of the desktop? It seems this is not possible with idle timers because they use timeout elapsed since the last user input, not the last time they run. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/