From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MAINTAINERS file Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:33:43 +0100 Message-ID: <87d4q8i74o.fsf@ambire.localdomain> References: <18375.18663.981150.252393@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87od9wt19m.fsf@elegiac.orebokech.com> <87tzjnvjhc.fsf@red-bean.com> <87ablffdf7.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ablerpl7.fsf@xmission.com> <87y78x61ko.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <871w6o22it.fsf@xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204792638 11848 80.91.229.12 (6 Mar 2008 08:37:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:37:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jason Earl Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 06 09:37:45 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXBbh-0000GP-Rn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:37:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXBbA-0000Kb-73 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:37:08 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXBa2-0007yj-Fl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:35:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXBa0-0007y3-Bp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:35:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXBa0-0007xx-5r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:35:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXBZz-00076v-L9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:35:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [151.61.143.242] (helo=ambire.localdomain) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXBZy-0007te-FP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:35:54 -0500 Original-Received: from ttn by ambire.localdomain with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JXBXr-0003IL-LO; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:33:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <871w6o22it.fsf@xmission.com> (Jason Earl's message of "Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:07:38 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91474 Archived-At: () Jason Earl () Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:07:38 -0700 In this particular case "pretty close" means [importing was in progress]. Thanks for the clarification. [Importing is slow.] I then used my spare time in the next several weeks playing around with some of the other available methods for migrating from CVS (or git) to bzr. This is something all programmers migrating to bzr from CVS (or git) will have to do. So, ... [...] I really debated speaking up about my experiments, because for the most part they have shown that bzr's import tools aren't quite up to the task of converting Emacs. I have, however, made enough progress that I would almost certainly would be helpful to anyone that was interested in experimenting with bzr for themselves. ..., i suggest you set up a public bzr repo of that tool, w/ a nice fat warning in the README. This will help people to: play w/ bzr directly; use it to flush out problems w/ the import process; and use it to flush out problems w/ Emacs' bzr (and other dVCS) support. Two (plus) birds w/ one stone. (Of course, there is the risk that one of the birds to be struck will be people's patience w/ multi-level breakage. That flighty thing, yet hard of wing... :--) thi