From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Florian Beck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 23:42:38 +0200 Message-ID: <87d4n3ii41.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> References: <87fxs0hrrv.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <4840084C.2020405@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212183795 24473 80.91.229.12 (30 May 2008 21:43:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 21:43:15 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 30 23:43:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K2CO9-0001ZH-8w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 23:43:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60488 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K2CNN-0002Kl-Fy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:43:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K2CN4-0002CN-GP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:42:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K2CN2-0002Ba-T5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:42:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52631 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K2CN2-0002BV-Pw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:42:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:48916) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2CN2-0002Kw-N6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:42:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:42863) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1K2CLJ-00055Q-7h for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:40:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2CMy-0002KJ-Td for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:42:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mo-p07-ob.rzone.de ([81.169.146.188]:41037) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2CMy-0002KD-G7 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 30 May 2008 17:42:40 -0400 X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 X-RZG-AUTH: z4gYkBuibEUuEEkKOBbVcdZa/VqsaA== Original-Received: from aeschylus (p549947EE.dip.t-dialin.net [84.153.71.238]) by post.webmailer.de (fruni mo26) (RZmta 16.38) with ESMTP id t003c5k4UHQQIe for ; Fri, 30 May 2008 23:42:38 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from: ) In-Reply-To: <4840084C.2020405@gmail.com> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Fri, 30 May 2008 15:59:40 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:98092 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:22501 Archived-At: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" writes: > Florian Beck wrote: >> Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers >> usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. >> >> Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org mailing = list. >> >> Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug >> and the precise symptoms of the bug: >> >> If I send a bug with=20 >> >> emacs -Q >> M-x report-emacs-bug >> >> emacs trys to use sendmail-user-agent by default. >> >> This doesn't work, which is no surprise because I haven't even installed >> sendmail. >> >> What *is* a problem is that there is no indication that sending the >> message failed. Emacs even displays Sending=E2=80=A6done. >> >> if I wouldn't read emacs-pretest-bug, I'd never known by bug report was >> not delivered. > > Is not this similar to the situation we had before on w32? The > solution to that was mailclient-send-it in mailclient.el. No, this happens on Ubuntu and probably on many gnu-linux-systems that do not install sendmail by default. I'm sorry, I forgot the system informat= ion. (see below) Also, I'm not looking for a workaround. (After I set mail-user-agent to gnus-user-agent everything is fine.) I'm reporting that on systems without sendmail bug reports likely disappear without trace. In GNU Emacs 23.0.60.4 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) of 2008-05-29 on aeschylus Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10400090 configured using `configure '--with-x-toolkit=3Dno' 'CC=3Dgcc' 'CFLAGS=3D-= O0 -fno-crossjumping -g'' --=20 Florian Beck