From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add function to make frame topmost? Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 12:33:56 +0900 Message-ID: <87d3xd7j6j.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <4BDB5A6E.5060803@harpegolden.net> <4BDB8886.4050202@harpegolden.net> <4BDC6CE7.8060400@harpegolden.net> <4BDD2979.50001@swipnet.se> <87iq767aln.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1272857691 30947 80.91.229.12 (3 May 2010 03:34:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 03:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David De La Harpe Golden , Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?= , Lennart Borgman , Stefan Monnier , Emacs-Devel devel To: chad Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 03 05:34:49 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8mQi-00014d-NM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 May 2010 05:34:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59859 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O8mQi-0008SO-7l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 May 2010 23:34:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O8mQd-0008S6-Dp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2010 23:34:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49541 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O8mQc-0008Rs-2a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2010 23:34:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8mQa-0005SJ-KX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2010 23:34:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:36639) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O8mQa-0005Rk-Bh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 02 May 2010 23:34:40 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9A321535AE; Mon, 3 May 2010 12:34:37 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BFF7D1A3624; Mon, 3 May 2010 12:33:56 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" a03421eb562b XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124464 Archived-At: chad writes: > On 2 May 2010, at 13:27, "Stephen J. Turnbull" > wrote: > > > That's a pretty good try, but it's still more obtrusive than it need > > be. Why a close box? *Any* click it such a window should dismiss it. > > Cut/copy and paste from such sources are useful more often than you > might think. No, I thought about that. Carefully. Should have known somebody would call me on it (out of context, yet). Seriously, now, for battery usage notifications? Come on, we can do better than that, and should. Yes, for some use-cases, selectability is a good idea. But these notifications, log windows, and tooltips that Lennart seems to suggest could be unified should not be unified, precisely because they are different in this respect (and others). I have nothing against unification of implementation, but the high- level APIs and especially their documentation should distinguish these use cases.