From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: draft for DEL key poll Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:38:52 -0400 Message-ID: <87d3endlw3.fsf@kwarm.red-bean.com> References: <87litcvtu2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317073148 17039 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2011 21:39:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 21:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 26 23:39:04 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R8ItB-0001FI-5m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:39:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51038 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8ItA-0002Y0-Oc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:39:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60865) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8It8-0002Xv-KU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:38:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8It7-00087I-D7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:38:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:40859) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8It7-00087B-5T; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:38:57 -0400 Original-Received: by vcbfo14 with SMTP id fo14so4114783vcb.0 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:38:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:reply-to:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=vWAUNHq9OyICiYH/dcy5zGG/oJX7sYBvPEEozh5Sjis=; b=qGgAJyJ4M8VeThvN2mFm5FqSgcIjauZ/kt+AICOe9sRRVeyrYT87QHrFQsWiIaIYsn Uo9iDgxqgPsNVaqyYr9zJ5Rl0CwcNzEFh/Tc4yB2hfHnZwl1XHPs1SAJSVdYzR7olOVq iv4ABpu5MvBBr3lNZdjx6R9al8O73fx1sJKAI= Original-Received: by 10.52.108.165 with SMTP id hl5mr7112048vdb.159.1317073135862; Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from kwarm.red-bean.com (topp148-office-nyc.openplans.org. [67.221.177.15]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bp4sm18489567vdc.0.2011.09.26.14.38.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 26 Sep 2011 14:38:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:12:34 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.220.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144361 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: >I'm planning the poll about DEL. Here is a draft for comments. (I >will also write a poll about completion.) > >In Emacs 24, now in pretest, a change is being considered for DEL >(often the Backspace key) and the Delete function key. When there is >an active region, they would delete the region instead of just one >character. This is enabled by default in the current pretest, so >building and using the pretest is a way to test it. > >Are you in favor of this change? How strongly do you feel >about the matter? > >We don't want to just "count votes" -- we want to understand >how this affects users. So if you care about the issue, >please tell us how the change affects your editing. > >What are the cases where you find it helpful? > >What are the cases where you find it inconvenient? > >How would you describe your level of Emacs experience? > >Please send your responses to emacs-delete-poll@gnu.org. It would be great to have some elisp I could evaluate to test this change before I vote in a poll about it. -K