From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Subwindow terminology Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 22:36:09 +0900 Message-ID: <87d3d6ofna.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87wrbfrxqz.fsf@gnu.org> <4EB51CCC.6040806@gmx.at> <87hb2iohql.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4EB53A16.3030604@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1320500182 18299 80.91.229.12 (5 Nov 2011 13:36:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 05 14:36:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RMgPw-0003sR-UF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 14:36:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43479 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RMgPw-0006A1-Cg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:36:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56163) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RMgPt-00069j-V6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:36:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RMgPt-0000G3-7Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:36:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:43385) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RMgPr-0000FP-QA; Sat, 05 Nov 2011 09:36:12 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt1.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC21E3FA0752; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:36:09 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A0C6E1A274E; Sat, 5 Nov 2011 22:36:09 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <4EB53A16.3030604@gmx.at> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0a1 under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" 2dbefd79b3d3 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.223 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145883 Archived-At: martin rudalics writes: > Using the term "descendant" with Emacs windows is misleading because > often a parent window is genealogically a descendant of one of its > subwindows. I don't see how a user would ever figure that out. > In any case "subwindow" is a pretty common term Yes, and that's a bug-not-a-feature here, given that other usages are applicable to Emacs internals at the very least (and in XEmacs, we actually have GUI subwindows visible from Lisp as such, although you rarely see code that uses these features).