From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: macros and the lexical environment Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 03:46:06 +0400 Message-ID: <87d2s0glz5.fsf@yandex.ru> References: <87ip1tim3t.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87y5aoe1ov.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1370475976 16419 80.91.229.3 (5 Jun 2013 23:46:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 23:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Nic Ferrier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 06 01:46:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UkNPE-0000sJ-4U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 01:46:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39283 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UkNPD-0001GF-OG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 19:46:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60486) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UkNP7-0001Ed-D5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 19:46:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UkNP3-0004Ah-Ew for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 19:46:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x233.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::233]:58659) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UkNP3-00049A-7T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 19:46:05 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-la0-f51.google.com with SMTP id fq12so1804350lab.10 for ; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:46:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type:x-antivirus:x-antivirus-status; bh=m2WPLBbDrmjde/B4N9QMGWC65K2ueUPSTMJ1n0GWxSg=; b=Mu41PDsSs4M0K6lEhSmZZJVOePUrNJZkftgbXAoirZim77SEWPKkiLVVpP0D4kQm3u Td3uoa14B564Or1CtEXW2J+RYxYffEyA3+Ju+6hHE1W6k5VL2FDA+haxcuMNZB0GO2Q5 CLplhbM6lDXHJhjiPIKaHzroS6X7LwsGRHKKxAFJkxmpt0xJ5poRoTHufdALowt8gF2m Tb9ChqHJHeIy51CdPVkWowdo/B9+9Qybwt0dj3R974Xqy5AvHy7oco0sQq1pNvjlgMky GN30Asw4HBExE9yUFh83BDtZUF7WQBVxcNuiuY9+9fXviEXxUg/67r1VPlySSGjdnWlz KP3g== X-Received: by 10.112.163.72 with SMTP id yg8mr15790184lbb.3.1370475963903; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from SOL ([178.252.98.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 4sm10384849lao.0.2013.06.05.16.46.02 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:46:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 05 Jun 2013 18:41:31 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (windows-nt) X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130605-1, 05.06.2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:160153 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Somewhat relatedly, I'd really like to see `debug' and `edebug' support >> local variable evaluation in lexical scoping environment. Apparently, >> it's rather hard to implement. > > The recent "merge specpdl and backtrace" is a step in this direction. > IOW, it's coming, tho not very fast. That's a very good news.