From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Stefan <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r116461: Connect electric-indent-mode up with CC Mode. Bug #15478.
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 03:37:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d2hb9hys.fsf@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140324224055.GB3825@acm.acm> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Mon, 24 Mar 2014 22:40:55 +0000")
Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
>> > A mode-dependent or buffer-local dependent setting, as well as, rather
>> > than instead of.
>
>> We have that: electric-indent-local-mode and electric-indent-inhibit.
>
> OK, for electric-indent-local-mode, which is gradually becoming
> prominent. But I though electric-indent-inhibit was a variable for major
> modes, not users - a mode initialisation thing, rather than a user
> configuration variable.
This is usually the case with buffer-local dependent settings. They're
impossible to set via Customize (I think), so one doesn't usually think
of them as user options, but a user can modify such var in a hook, too.
> b - Simplify `electric-indent-post-self-insert-function' such that it
> reindents only the line on which the self-inserting character is
> typed.
It would still need to handle presence of ?\n in `electric-indent-chars'
when that's the case. This value is somewhat special since the
line-to-be reindented would be the previous, not the current one.
> 2. For making RET indent the new line in programming modes:
> a - Bind RET to `newline-and-indent' and C-j to `newline' in
> `prog-mode-map' and possibly in certain other major mode maps (to be
> discussed).
I believe there's something to be said for consistency: having RET
indent line in some modes, but not others doesn't make much sense to me.
There's a certain class of users who've been binding RET to
`newline-and-indent' for a long time (myself included), and I haven't
seen anyone mention only doing that in prog-mode, instead of globally.
> b - (Maybe) create a minor mode to restore RET and C-j to traditional
> bindings.
How hard can it be for a user to change the key bindings without a mode?
>> So make this bug report specific about a particular circumstance where
>> the behavior is undesirable, or about how hard it is to disable it.
>
> I think RMS's bug #16156, reproduced and being discussed on a parallel
> thread, is a good enough example, so there's not much point in me opening
> a new one.
This behavior, as described in the bug above, makes sense to me, so it's
clearly a personal preference.
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2014-02-18 0:11 ` [Emacs-diffs] trunk r116461: Connect electric-indent-mode up with CC Mode. Bug #15478 Stefan Monnier
2014-02-22 18:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-02-25 3:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-28 19:50 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-01 15:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-02 11:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-04 3:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-08 22:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-09 1:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-09 12:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-10 3:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-10 6:59 ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-10 12:24 ` João Távora
2014-03-10 18:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-16 22:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-17 15:48 ` Stefan
2014-03-19 22:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-20 1:46 ` Stefan
2014-03-20 8:35 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-03-21 8:24 ` João Távora
2014-03-22 13:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-22 16:14 ` Stefan
2014-03-22 20:19 ` David Caldwell
2014-03-22 22:05 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-22 22:32 ` David Caldwell
2014-03-24 1:13 ` Stefan
2014-03-22 22:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-24 1:37 ` Stefan
2014-03-24 22:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-25 1:37 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2014-03-26 20:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-27 8:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-30 14:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-31 17:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-04-03 21:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-25 1:54 ` Stefan
2014-03-26 21:21 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-27 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-30 11:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-30 16:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-22 23:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-03-24 1:39 ` Stefan
2014-03-24 6:59 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-24 9:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-24 17:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24 17:29 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-24 17:39 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-24 17:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-24 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-25 1:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 3:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-24 18:32 ` Stefan
2014-03-25 1:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 7:44 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-25 8:08 ` Steinar Bang
2014-03-25 16:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-25 17:08 ` Steinar Bang
2014-03-25 17:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 19:28 ` Steinar Bang
2014-03-25 19:49 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-25 19:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-25 13:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-27 7:51 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-24 21:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
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