From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:21:57 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87d2a4arju.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <54193A70.9020901@member.fsf.org> <837g0ptnlj.fsf@gnu.org> <87r3yxwdr6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx3tmi3t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834mvttgsf.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhp5m99w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9ztm5oa.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d2ahm3nw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <871tqneyvl.fsf@netris.org> <87d2a54t1m.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <83lhotme1e.fsf@gnu.org> <871tql17uw.fsf@yeeloong.lan> <838uktm9gw.fsf@gnu.org> <87ppe5rt5l.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1412691770 13220 80.91.229.3 (7 Oct 2014 14:22:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:22:50 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 07 16:22:42 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVf0-0002uz-OP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:22:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59202 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVf0-0002hC-Bc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:22:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39837) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVeb-0002gE-ON for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:22:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVeU-0004Nm-GI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:22:17 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:39215) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVeU-0004My-AP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 10:22:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XbVeS-0002eI-SZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:22:08 +0200 Original-Received: from x2f520b0.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.245.32.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:22:08 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by x2f520b0.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 16:22:08 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f520b0.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:G9hG87HJQruUrx3l82sWy7ztRTc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:175071 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > In the GNU Project, we do not "obey" standards. Rather, we take them > into account when judging what is best for the program to do. > > Emacs could conceivably report an error after decoding a file as UTF-8 > which turns out to have invalid text. That way, the user will have > the chance to decide whether to accept the decoding or not. One problem with that is that quite often Emacs' choice of a coding system for a buffer is the result of heuristics rather than dependable information. Not making a fuzz might often be simplest. -- David Kastrup