Re: oldest commit?

[Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>]

"Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com> writes:
>Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>:
>> Funny that in that commit record, Jim's affiliation (by email address)
>> is with a company that won't exist for another 8 years :-).  I guess
>> it's not too surprising that somewhere along Emacs's long chain of
>> conversions there was at least one metadata chronology issue.
>
>The transition comment warns about this. Email addresses are based on
>conversion day, not on the time of the commit.  

Oh, just to be clear, my point was not a criticism -- merely an amusing
side note.  I have no complaints about this transition (or the past
ones, for that matter).

Best,
­K

>Here's what I think happened to jimb's address.  At the time of the 
>bzr conversion in 2009, there were no email addresses in the CVS,
>so whover did that lift supplied jimb's email in 2009, at which point
>RH certainly *did* exist. :-) 
>
>I felt it was more important to have consistent identifiers than to
>try to dig up historical addresses that might not be recoverable and, if
>they were, might no longer be valid.
>
>This is one reason why I asked on the list for preferred form of name
>and email address, and why (in cases where it applied) I reconciled
>variant forms of peoples' names and used the UTF-8 for whatever
>non-ASCII characters they required.  In some cases this requred
>multiple patches.  Here are some examples - the =C stands for "all
>commits":
>
>=C filter --replace /Adam Sjogren/Adam Sjøgren/g
>=C filter --replace /K. Handa/Kenichi Handa/g
>=C filter --regexp /[Aa]gustin [Mm]artin/Agustín Martín/g
>
>In the third one I'm reconciling four variant forms and adding an
>acute-accented i from the fifth (correct) one, which also occurred.
>
>In some cases human names were entirely missing malformed or had been
>swapped with email addresses:
>
>=C filter --regexp /^ *<dancol/Daniel Colascione <dancol/
>=C filter --regexp /dancol@dancol.org <>/Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org>/
>=C filter --replace /<fabian@anue.biz>/<fgallina@gnu.org>/
>=C filter --replace /<fabian@cuca>/<fgallina@gnu.org>/
>
>Just to show that this can happen to the best of us:
>
>=C filter --replace /Richard M. Stallman <>/Richard M. Stallman <rms@gnu.org>/
>
>Here's a fun little triplet - you can infer a fourth address that also occurred:
>
>=C filter --replace /joakim <joakim@exodia>/Joakim Verona <joakim@verona.se>/
>=C filter --replace /root <root@exodia>/Joakim Verona <joakim@verona.se>/
>=C filter --replace /joakim verona <joakim@verona.se>/Joakim Verona <joakim@vero
>
>And here's the award for most diacriticals:
>
>=C filter --replace /Stepán Nemec/Štěpán Němec/g
>
>When I talk about the difference between a slapdash repo conversion
>and a really high-quality, polished one, this is the sort of thing I mean.