From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:21:45 +0100 Message-ID: <87d27oliue.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87ppbqb6s1.fsf@gnu.org> <87388mme16.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87a92u86wv.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418415730 14949 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2014 20:22:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, phillip.lord@newcastle.ac.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 12 21:22:03 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzWiw-00014O-O0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:22:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59368 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzWiv-0002xr-WF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47040) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzWin-0002xk-Fh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:21:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzWii-000217-0Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:21:53 -0500 Original-Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([2a01:474::1]:46922) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzWih-00020x-Pd; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:21:47 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1DF4275; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:21:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AZSayegEnqEz; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:21:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from pluto (reverse-83.fdn.fr [80.67.176.83]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D245FA2; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:21:45 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 22 Frimaire an 223 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:41:24 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:474::1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179959 Archived-At: Richard Stallman skribis: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > The problem is that GNU manuals refer to each other, and Texinfo nodes > > are part of their public interface, in a way. > > > Leaving out cross-manual refs would be a big loss for GNU as a project > > to develop a coherent system, because manuals would be left isolated. > > Thanks for remembering this feature. > We certainly want inter-manual cross references. > Input formats need to be able to support them. Input *and* output formats. HTML as an output format supports them for on-line manuals, provided the manual-to-URL mapping can be configured as in Texinfo 5 (info "(texinfo) HTML Xref Configuration"), but URLs don't work for locally-installed manuals. Ludo'.