From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oleh Krehel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the popularity of git Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2015 14:43:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87d1vr42r3.fsf@gmail.com> References: <20151028235340.GE2538@acm.fritz.box> <87ziz213wx.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20151029123554.GB2510@acm.fritz.box> <87h9l995ec.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <20151029170237.GF2510@acm.fritz.box> <22068.12941.199944.979963@turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <20151031165007.GA20747@acm.fritz.box> <20151031214827.GB1853@acm.fritz.box> <871tca2j7f.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k2pz7ejv.fsf@gmail.com> <56388756.1020502@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446558245 2522 80.91.229.3 (3 Nov 2015 13:44:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 13:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers , Dmitry Gutov To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 03 14:44:00 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtbsM-0001KX-FC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 14:43:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48456 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZtbsL-0001VM-VL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 08:43:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41577) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ztbs2-0001UJ-VJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 08:43:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ztbrz-0007K3-Oh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 08:43:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]:37009) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Ztbrz-0007Jz-Im for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 08:43:27 -0500 Original-Received: by wicfv8 with SMTP id fv8so11882515wic.0 for ; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 05:43:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=j+L4e0EejB3foR7HMzrsyG3CC0+vzYsbeMtOMt1dVfQ=; b=wKUOExBoqwnU68JlGjVjQ+RJqebtNcWeLcECfBlsHCz8GkbKEu8tvzLJ9L9j76z9dD OzSdzAqabeoNF+PcQj4N1Oubl7LRvvu5p7JWB7HpWcLIIwIB+/TlUViWfEXFUG5utj5t hxtwb9g/KW4elrF1J11g50wpzSd3xE7qPs6B9/oJ8sAUhCMH5AqyQmNUn7Fweo4yIwnr k08Yap0XNAEmbovojC/RukrUHa9XgH305SioOe0vRqLddbHDTSzu/1OjmwV1i2F5aChN VVwpXiH9DAyP6qx0qVZQZyMQU2fwIboKihntDxC4sYti9THrAXWMFXASGqB1R6ivwW/R ojkg== X-Received: by 10.194.92.170 with SMTP id cn10mr32074162wjb.12.1446558207048; Tue, 03 Nov 2015 05:43:27 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from firefly (dyn069045.nbw.tue.nl. [131.155.69.45]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r13sm23441416wmg.12.2015.11.03.05.43.26 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Nov 2015 05:43:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Tue, 3 Nov 2015 14:30:03 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:193144 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:08 PM, John Wiegley wrote: > >> We have valuable people leaving this mailing list due to its penchant for >> straying off-topic for so long. I assure you it is not being overrated. > > Sorry, but I find this argument less than compelling. emacs-devel has less than 40 msg/day, which is low. Anyone who dislikes wandering threads can silence them. And wandering threads often come back to Emacs issues. Anyone who's "leaving > this list due to its penchant for straying off-topic for so long" will likely leave anyway due to its penchant for long threads, even on-topic. No one is interested in all issues. If a person is "leaving" only because they can't stomach skipping through ~20 messages per day, then they'd find a reason to leave anyway. And I wouldn't call this type of people valuable, since they don't actually contribute anything on account of "leaving" because of every little inconvenience. >> I again request that the members of this thread take the discussion elsewhere, >> among themselves. It is not needed here in emacs-devel. > > I disagree. Seconded.